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    Im looking to cut major and get into the best shape of my life. I'm 6'3" 220 but it's not a lean 220 I want it to be a lean cut weight though. I want to get on a good fat burner and something else that will show me results fast. I have been doing research on epistane but I'm not sure if it's good or not. Any suggestions?

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    Dude why did you make another thread??
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    If you wanna lose fat try Finaflex PX 500-xt...really good stuff...and everything depends on ur diet as well...
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    Have you heard of or tried epistane?? I've been thinking about tryin that I just haven't talked to anyone who has tried it yet
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    That's a ph...and idk of you ready for that one...
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    Is that something that I should do after awhile? And if I do take a ph do I need a liver block?
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    no need to touch any prohormones at your age (as others said in your other thread). wait until you're a bit older and have done enough time in terms of research before you even consider going that route. and again, eating properly in reference to your goals is always the key component to getting the results you want
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    OP, you are definitely not ready to use a prohormone/designer steroid like epistane. You'd need a whole lot more than a 'liver block' to run epi effectively and safely.

    Get your diet in order, put in the time at the gym, toss in a thermogen and maybe a few other basic supps and you're good to go. One effective thermogen stack to consider would be the Combustion/Shift Stack available at Nutraplanet.
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    Want a solid product.. Slim FX... Good and clean energy with nice appetite suppression... Combine that with what the other guys wrote, about fixing the diet and training, and you're good to go.. Nutra got a pretty nice price on it now as well:
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    Quote Originally Posted by allnatural923 View Post
    no need to touch any prohormones at your age (as others said in your other thread). wait until you're a bit older and have done enough time in terms of research before you even consider going that route. and again, eating properly in reference to your goals is always the key component to getting the results you want

    this x 2...just focus on great nutrition and basic supps man! There are no shortcuts unless your using iForce's hemavol! It's science :P
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    Few combos out there that can help once your diet is on point. DCP/Heat for a non-stim and Dexaprine/TT-33 for a full day of hyperness
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eizbear View Post
    Want a solid product.. Slim FX... Good and clean energy with nice appetite suppression... Combine that with what the other guys wrote, about fixing the diet and training, and you're good to go.. Nutra got a pretty nice price on it now as well:
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    I prefer LeanFX from the AX line for appetite suppression; although, the two stack well with one another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vicesoldier View Post
    Few combos out there that can help once your diet is on point. DCP/Heat for a non-stim and Dexaprine/TT-33 for a full day of hyperness
    how is heat stim-free?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    I prefer LeanFX from the AX line for appetite suppression; although, the two stack well with one another.
    I always love to add AX Trisorb into any stack. Given the those two mentioned, would make the Trifecta
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    Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    how is heat stim-free?
    HEAT Stack Supplement Facts

    Serving Size: capsule
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    Tyramine 100 mg **
    Hordenine 50 mg **
    Rauwolfia Serperntia Extract (30% Rauwolscine) 30 mg **
    Green Coffee Bean Extract (50% Chlorogenic Acid) 200 mg **
    Bergenin 200 mg **
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    I know you will say it has Coffee Bean Extract and thats a stimulant. Not so with Green Coffee, your normal everyday coffee contains cafestol which gives you the stimulant effect, which is not present in green coffee beans.
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    I'm running ECY, lean Xtreme and Erase and I am leaning up quick. Nice stack!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by punjabimunde
    If you wanna lose fat try Finaflex PX 500-xt...really good stuff...and everything depends on ur diet as well...
    Agreed bro... Good shout!!! Pro XT is gun. Using it now and logging it Scott hooked up...sick as
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    I was going to go with alpha-yohimbine (i.e. rauwolscine), tyramine, hordenine, or Evodiamine (to a lesser extent)

    Quote Originally Posted by vicesoldier View Post
    HEAT Stack Supplement Facts

    Serving Size: capsule
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    Tyramine 100 mg **
    Hordenine 50 mg **
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    I know you will say it has Coffee Bean Extract and thats a stimulant. Not so with Green Coffee, your normal everyday coffee contains cafestol which gives you the stimulant effect, which is not present in green coffee beans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    I was going to go with alpha-yohimbine (i.e. rauwolscine), tyramine, hordenine, or Evodiamine (to a lesser extent)

    Well Rauwolscine blocks your alpha-2 receptors just as much as yohimbine, but is 50 times less effective on alpha 1-adrenoceptors. Alpha 1 blockade also comes with side effects such as reduced blood pressure, jitters etc.(stim effect) Also know to kill adipose which is why it is in Heat(to raise body heat)

    There is no caffeine in Tyramine

    Hordenine works to increase lipolysis through norepinephrine modulation

    Evodiamine just pretty much increases your overall resting core temperature

    Unless your sensitive to any of these ingredients than their shouldn't be any stim effect on it
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    I really think Slim FX stacked with Lean FX would fit the OP very well here.

    Provide some great stim effect, appetite control, cortisol control, etc. Would be very nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by runner_79

    Agreed bro... Good shout!!! Pro XT is gun. Using it now and logging it Scott hooked up...sick as
    Seriously bro...I love PX 500-xt...I lost 8lbs in 4weeks...while keeping my size...and I still love the feeling of energy comes from pro xt....great stuff!!!
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    Any opinions on 25mg of Bronkaid and 200mg of caffeine?
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    -Calculate your RMR. There are plenty of effective methods you can use such as Mifflin St.-Jeor, Cunningham, ect. Factor in your activity factor. Then establish a reasonable caloric deficit with an eating plan. There's much more to it then just that but it's a starting point. You can then add in things such as nutrient partitioner's, raspberry ketones, TTA, etc. From what I've read, you're not ready for a prohormones like epistane yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BB12 View Post
    I always love to add AX Trisorb into any stack. Given the those two mentioned, would make the Trifecta
    ^^^This! Currently using Trisorb and on first hand, i thought i wouldn't be able to see any of it's effects but i was wrong. Taking a pretty lengthy stack right now and i believe the Trisorb has helped it feel like all clean energy and has helped everything serve its purpose better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by punjabimunde

    Seriously bro...I love PX 500-xt...I lost 8lbs in 4weeks...while keeping my size...and I still love the feeling of energy comes from pro xt....great stuff!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MindFack
    Any opinions on 25mg of Bronkaid and 200mg of caffeine?
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