Lean Xtreme and DCP plus TTA-500?

[fatburner2007]

Looking to run Lean Xtreme (1 cap before breakfast, 1 cap 4 hours later, and 1 cap before bedtime) along with DCP (2 caps before breakfast, 2 caps before lunch, and 2 caps before dinner).

Would there be any additional benefit of including 1 cap of TTA-500 with each DCP dosage or just 1 cap of TTA-500 with the bedtime dosage of Lean Xtreme or would that be too much TTA?

[DkGreek]

I took too much TTA once [exact same combination of ingredients as you are proposing,] and got really painful cramps.

[mr.cooper69]

I would add 1 cap of TTA-500 per day, pre-bed as you said. Nothing more. It will be worth it .

[mr.cooper69]

I took too much TTA once [exact same combination of ingredients as you are proposing,] and got really painful cramps.

You also took it for 4 months straight. Hopefully you've learned your lesson

[DkGreek]

You also took it for 4 months straight. Hopefully you've learned your lesson

Yep.

Well I am THE TTA Slut!!!

[fatburner2007]

I can see where that would not be a good idea.

A buddy of mine is going to start the same type of run, but going to use Lean Xtreme and since he isn't able to find DCP, would the following be as close as you can get:

RK-500 - 1 cap before breakfast, 1 cap before lunch, and 1 cap before dinner
TTA-500 - 1 cap before breakfast, 1 cap before lunch, 1 cap before dinner, and 1 cap before bedtime
Lean Xtreme - 1 cap before breakfast, 1 cap 4 hours later, and 1 cap at bedtime

Would you also add in Green Tea or modify the dosages/timings at all of RK-500 or TTA-500?

You also took it for 4 months straight. Hopefully you've learned your lesson

[jaymode]

I can see where that would not be a good idea.

A buddy of mine is going to start the same type of run, but going to use Lean Xtreme and since he isn't able to find DCP, would the following be as close as you can get:

RK-500 - 1 cap before breakfast, 1 cap before lunch, and 1 cap before dinner
TTA-500 - 1 cap before breakfast, 1 cap before lunch, 1 cap before dinner, and 1 cap before bedtime
Lean Xtreme - 1 cap before breakfast, 1 cap 4 hours later, and 1 cap at bedtime

Would you also add in Green Tea or modify the dosages/timings at all of RK-500 or TTA-500?

I would add in some PLCAR:
http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/s...-capsules.html
http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/n...100-grams.html

The only other thing missing from that stack that is in DCP is a DGAT inhibitor. There are some suggestions in this thread:
Anything similar to DCP?

[Smitty77]

Would there be any additional benefit of including 1 cap of TTA-500 with each DCP dosage or just 1 cap of TTA-500 with the bedtime dosage of Lean Xtreme or would that be too much TTA?

financially, yes... if using both, i would recommend skipping one of the DCP dosing times all together. with the half-life of TTA clocking in between 9 and 14 hours, you can reserve those 2 tablets and extend your run by a number of days.

simply put, try 2 DCP tablets prior to 2 of the meals and 1 TTA-500 before bed... whichever meal you can skip the dosage for, make that either your pre- or post-WO meal.

while most overload their TTA dosages thinking more is better, that's not necessarily the case... especially if you're using it in conjunction with LX, and a sound diet/cardio regimen.

[fatburner2007]

How is PLCAR compare to ALCAR? Already picked up a bottle of ALCAR I was also planning on doing 2 grams per day.

I would add in some PLCAR:
http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/s...-capsules.html
http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/n...100-grams.html

The only other thing missing from that stack that is in DCP is a DGAT inhibitor. There are some suggestions in this thread:
Anything similar to DCP?

[fightbackhxc]

I took too much TTA once [exact same combination of ingredients as you are proposing,] and got really painful cramps.

Our tta has an electrolyte complex which should help with cramping. Definitley worth it.

[fightbackhxc]

financially, yes... if using both, i would recommend skipping one of the DCP dosing times all together. with the half-life of TTA clocking in between 9 and 14 hours, you can reserve those 2 tablets and extend your run by a number of days.

simply put, try 2 DCP tablets prior to 2 of the meals and 1 TTA-500 before bed... whichever meal you can skip the dosage for, make that either your pre- or post-WO meal.

while most overload their TTA dosages thinking more is better, that's not necessarily the case... especially if you're using it in conjunction with LX, and a sound diet/cardio regimen.

Smitty is da man

[fatburner2007]

Good to hear. So for my buddy doing the simliar, but using TTA-500 and RK-500 since he couldn't find any DCP, how is this:

RK-500 - 1 cap before breakfast, 1 cap before lunch, and 1 cap before dinner
TTA-500 - 1 cap before breakfast, 1 cap before lunch, 1 cap before dinner, and 1 cap before bedtime
Lean Xtreme - 1 cap before breakfast, 1 cap 4 hours later, and 1 cap at bedtime

Would you also add in Green Tea or modify the dosages/timings at all of RK-500 or TTA-500?

Smitty is da man

[Smitty77]

Good to hear. So for my buddy doing the simliar, but using TTA-500 and RK-500 since he couldn't find any DCP, how is this:

RK-500 - 1 cap before breakfast, 1 cap before lunch, and 1 cap before dinner
TTA-500 - 1 cap before breakfast, 1 cap before lunch, 1 cap before dinner, and 1 cap before bedtime
Lean Xtreme - 1 cap before breakfast, 1 cap 4 hours later, and 1 cap at bedtime

Would you also add in Green Tea or modify the dosages/timings at all of RK-500 or TTA-500?

there's no need for him (or really anyone, for that matter) to take 2g of TTA/day... electrolyte complex or not, that would wreak havoc on your stomach, and it's really unnecessary. two capsules/day is sufficient when used with the RK and LX.

everything else looks fine; no need for the ECGC... for antioxidant purposes, however, actually drinking a freshly brewed cup of green tea each day wouldn't be a bad thing.

[fatburner2007]

Good to hear; so maybe 1 cap of TTA-500 upon waking up along with a cap of LX and cap of RK and then another cap of TTA-500 at bedtime or any optimal timing for the 2 caps of TTA-500?

there's no need for him (or really anyone, for that matter) to take 2g of TTA/day... electrolyte complex or not, that would wreak havoc on your stomach, and it's really unnecessary. two capsules/day is sufficient when used with the RK and LX.

everything else looks fine; no need for the ECGC... for antioxidant purposes, however, actually drinking a freshly brewed cup of green tea each day wouldn't be a bad thing.

[Smitty77]

Good to hear; so maybe 1 cap of TTA-500 upon waking up along with a cap of LX and cap of RK and then another cap of TTA-500 at bedtime or any optimal timing for the 2 caps of TTA-500?

that's the most prudent approach, really.

[jaymode]

How is PLCAR compare to ALCAR? Already picked up a bottle of ALCAR I was also planning on doing 2 grams per day.

This link may help with the differences of some carnitines.
L-Carnitine L-Tartrate vs. PLCAR

There was another thread that talked about it, but I couldn't find it in my quick search.

[mr.cooper69]

I can see where that would not be a good idea.

A buddy of mine is going to start the same type of run, but going to use Lean Xtreme and since he isn't able to find DCP, would the following be as close as you can get:

RK-500 - 1 cap before breakfast, 1 cap before lunch, and 1 cap before dinner
TTA-500 - 1 cap before breakfast, 1 cap before lunch, 1 cap before dinner, and 1 cap before bedtime
Lean Xtreme - 1 cap before breakfast, 1 cap 4 hours later, and 1 cap at bedtime

Would you also add in Green Tea or modify the dosages/timings at all of RK-500 or TTA-500?

I personally would dose the TTA at 1g/day for 2 months rather than 2g/day for a shorter cycle. Also, I'd keep the RK-500 at round 1g/day to get the most bang for your buck.

[mr.cooper69]

PLCAR is for general fatigue and may have ergogenic benefits; ALCAR is for mental fatigue and has a TON of overall health benefits ranging from testosterone optimization to neuroprotection.

[fatburner2007]

Thanks, that sounds like a good approach....2 caps of each per day helps make it last longer too.

I personally would dose the TTA at 1g/day for 2 months rather than 2g/day for a shorter cycle. Also, I'd keep the RK-500 at round 1g/day to get the most bang for your buck.

[fatburner2007]

Does 2 caps of TTA-500 per day cause much noticeable water retention? Also, how effective for fat loss is 6 caps per day of DCP compared to 2 caps per day of TTA-500?