Do you use prohormones? steroids? test boosters? What are you using for cholesterol?

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  1. Do you use prohormones? steroids? test boosters? What are you using for cholesterol?


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  2. Quote Originally Posted by VaughnTrue View Post
    ^^^^^
    Who cares what we use, I've been waiting to see what you guys have up your sleeve for this. Is it finally time?
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  3. Heart help is out

    Available at nutra now.
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by mattrag View Post
    Heart help is out

    Available at nutra now.
    I didn't know it was already out. Looks like I'll be picking two up with my next order.
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  5. haha it's out...


    I was really just hoping to show people how Heart Help compares to what they currently take...


    I will put $500 of my own cash up against any other Cholesterol/heart health product on the market
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by VaughnTrue View Post
    haha it's out...


    I was really just hoping to show people how Heart Help compares to what they currently take...


    I will put $500 of my own cash up against any other Cholesterol/heart health product on the market
    No need, at least for me. I do something different every cycle in terms of cholesterol. I'm constantly tweaking and changing and figuring out how things works for me to come up with the most effective combination of ingredients, etc for myself. Been looking forward to this one for a while now.
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  7. I don't take anything, am i doing it wrong?

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Rhadam View Post
    I don't take anything, am i doing it wrong?
    Actually,


    even those people who don't have high cholesterol can benefit from Heart-Help.
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  9. Does it help with high blood pressure

  10. Quote Originally Posted by bludevil View Post
    Does it help with high blood pressure
    While its MOA's do not directly reduce BP, by reducing cholesterol, your heart won't have to pump as hard, thus reducing BP
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by Rhadam View Post
    I don't take anything, am i doing it wrong?

    Depends, do you regularly get your cholesterol checked?

    My cholesterol sky rockets with even mild hormones.. but then again I eat tons of red meat!
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by VaughnTrue View Post
    While its MOA's do not directly reduce BP, by reducing cholesterol, your heart won't have to pump as hard, thus reducing BP
    No.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by VaughnTrue View Post
    Actually,


    even those people who don't have high cholesterol can benefit from Heart-Help.
    I shall check it out.

    Quote Originally Posted by criticalbench View Post
    Depends, do you regularly get your cholesterol checked?

    My cholesterol sky rockets with even mild hormones.. but then again I eat tons of red meat!
    I've never had my cholesterol checked, however no one in my family has ever had a cholesterol issue. Next cycle i should probably get it checked pre, intra, and post. I'll use this as a reminder

  14. Quote Originally Posted by VaughnTrue View Post
    haha it's out...


    I was really just hoping to show people how Heart Help compares to what they currently take...


    I will put $500 of my own cash up against any other Cholesterol/heart health product on the market
    How about putting $500 up to show us some solid evidence between total cholesterol and CVD?

    Inhibiting the natural production of cholesterol in our body is not a good thing
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  15. So you're saying that inhibiting the hmg-coa reductase enzyme is a bad thing?



    That's the exact same way the most popular Rx drugs work.



    Edit: on top of that, the ingredient has been proven in adult humans to lower cholesterol, increase HDL, decrease LDL, decrease triglycerides, and decrease blood sugar, Lol are you joking here?
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  16. Krill Oil?


  17. Krill oil is good stuff. The two would be a great pair. I'm just using fish oil + heart help right now.
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  18. Send me some....I get my bloodwork done every 6 months and my HDL has been within the same value give or take 2 units for 2.5 years. I am getting it done at the end of Feb
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by VaughnTrue View Post
    ^^^^^
    good ol fashioned niacin is great for cholesterol.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by VaughnTrue View Post
    So you're saying that inhibiting the hmg-coa reductase enzyme is a bad thing?
    Yes

    Quote Originally Posted by VaughnTrue View Post
    That's the exact same way the most popular Rx drugs work.
    I dislike statins as well

    Quote Originally Posted by VaughnTrue View Post
    Edit: on top of that, the ingredient has been proven in adult humans to lower cholesterol, increase HDL, decrease LDL, decrease triglycerides, and decrease blood sugar, Lol are you joking here?
    lowering cholesterol isn't always a good thing
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  21. I'll give it a try.

    Last time I had bloodwork done, my LDL was in the 160's - way too high.

    On the positive side, my HLD was also extremely high, and my Triglycerides were next to nothing.

    I'd like to get the LDL down, of course, so "Heart Health" might be just what I'm looking for.

    On a side note - even though my overall cholesterol was high, some have told me that it's the ratio of good to bad that is more important, as opposed to the sum of adding the two numbers together. If that's the case, I'm in good shape.

    However, it can't hurt to get that LDL level down some - right?

  22. Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post
    Yes



    I dislike statins as well



    lowering cholesterol isn't always a good thing
    Yes...drinking water isn't always a good thing either though ...


    The study showed zero side effects, and significant improvements in every user. Obviously lowering your cholesterol if you are at healthy ratios/levels is not advisable.
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  23. Quote Originally Posted by DGA3 View Post
    I'll give it a try.

    Last time I had bloodwork done, my LDL was in the 160's - way too high.

    On the positive side, my HLD was also extremely high, and my Triglycerides were next to nothing.

    I'd like to get the LDL down, of course, so "Heart Health" might be just what I'm looking for.

    On a side note - even though my overall cholesterol was high, some have told me that it's the ratio of good to bad that is more important, as opposed to the sum of adding the two numbers together. If that's the case, I'm in good shape.

    However, it can't hurt to get that LDL level down some - right?
    In my opinion, the ratio is what matters most. Thats why Heart Help shines because it simultaneously raises HDL while lowering LDL, thus making the ratio better and better.
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by itzDodge
    Krill Oil?
    Good stuff. Smells rank enough to clear out a room though.
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by VaughnTrue View Post
    Yes...drinking water isn't always a good thing either though ...


    How is this relevant?

    Quote Originally Posted by VaughnTrue View Post
    The study showed zero side effects, and significant improvements in every user. Obviously lowering your cholesterol if you are at healthy ratios/levels is not advisable.
    Again, do you have any evidence that shows cholesterol to be a causative factor for CVD?

    Also let me be clear, this is in no way a criticism of your company's product but at the idea that people need to lower their cholesterol in order to be healthy.
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  26. Quote Originally Posted by VaughnTrue View Post
    In my opinion, the ratio is what matters most. Thats why Heart Help shines because it simultaneously raises HDL while lowering LDL, thus making the ratio better and better.
    No, the type of LDL is what matters and inhibiting the hmg-coa reductase enzyme will not lower the right type. Yes it lowers total cholesterol but recent research (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...1/?tool=pubmed) has shown the use of statins (which work by inhibiting the hmg-coa reductase enzyme) does not lower small dense LDL, which is the one that is linked to inflammation (which is what raises CVD risk, not cholesterol). So while a statin will lower total cholesterol and will result in drops of LDL and even sdLDL it also changes the ratio of sdLDL and the larger LDLs, which is not good.

    Again, inhibiting the natural production of cholesterol in our body is not a good thing, especially when our bodies have an natural self-regulating system. What happens when the body tries to produce the necessary amount of cholesterol? What happens when adequate levels of cholesterol are not available for hormone production? Or what happens to the parts of our body that needs cholesterol?

    Cholesterol is not a bad thing.
    Inflammation is.
    Statins do not effectively decrease sdLDL which is the one that oxidizes and causes the inflammation which is what results in higher CVD risk.

    If your goal is to lower your CVD risk then your goal should be to reduce inflamation
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  27. Quote Originally Posted by antihero View Post
    Good stuff. Smells rank enough to clear out a room though.
    Not always a bad thing, bust those out at 4 am when bitches need to get out of your house

    Partys over pills


  28. Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post
    No, the type of LDL is what matters and inhibiting the hmg-coa reductase enzyme will not lower the right type. Yes it lowers total cholesterol but recent research (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...1/?tool=pubmed) has shown the use of statins (which work by inhibiting the hmg-coa reductase enzyme) does not lower small dense LDL, which is the one that is linked to inflammation (which is what raises CVD risk, not cholesterol). So while a statin will lower total cholesterol and will result in drops of LDL and even sdLDL it also changes the ratio of sdLDL and the larger LDLs, which is not good.

    Again, inhibiting the natural production of cholesterol in our body is not a good thing, especially when our bodies have an natural self-regulating system. What happens when the body tries to produce the necessary amount of cholesterol? What happens when adequate levels of cholesterol are not available for hormone production? Or what happens to the parts of our body that needs cholesterol?

    Cholesterol is not a bad thing.
    Inflammation is.
    Statins do not effectively decrease sdLDL which is the one that oxidizes and causes the inflammation which is what results in higher CVD risk.

    If your goal is to lower your CVD risk then your goal should be to reduce inflamation
    So for someone like me, what is an effective remedy?

    Or, with my high levels of "good" cholesterol and low triglycerides, am I ok?

    Suggestions?

  29. Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post
    No, the type of LDL is what matters and inhibiting the hmg-coa reductase enzyme will not lower the right type. Yes it lowers total cholesterol but recent research (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...1/?tool=pubmed) has shown the use of statins (which work by inhibiting the hmg-coa reductase enzyme) does not lower small dense LDL, which is the one that is linked to inflammation (which is what raises CVD risk, not cholesterol). So while a statin will lower total cholesterol and will result in drops of LDL and even sdLDL it also changes the ratio of sdLDL and the larger LDLs, which is not good.


    Again, inhibiting the natural production of cholesterol in our body is not a good thing, especially when our bodies have an natural self-regulating system. What happens when the body tries to produce the necessary amount of cholesterol? What happens when adequate levels of cholesterol are not available for hormone production? Or what happens to the parts of our body that needs cholesterol?

    Cholesterol is not a bad thing.
    Inflammation is.
    Statins do not effectively decrease sdLDL which is the one that oxidizes and causes the inflammation which is what results in higher CVD risk.

    If your goal is to lower your CVD risk then your goal should be to reduce inflamation
    statins are effective in reducing inflammation. many many studies have shown significant reduction of CRP levels with statin use.
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  30. I'm trying the 'anabolic diet' ....it's supposed to cut fat and lower cholesterol....raise hdl's and lower ldl's ....it's a high fat..red meat diet...
    ....I'm in day 3...but hope this will work......if it works I keep my test levels and my muscle mass.............

    .........charley
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