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  1.  01-08-2012  09:02 PM
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    Erase or Erase Pro


    Ok going on a hard-core cycle and I was thinking of using erase on my PCT. I remember Gamer2be08 had a log about it because he had got a little gyno and it seem to be da ****. But now we got Erase Pro....I'm not on AM a lot so i don't know what is truly the difference. So can someone please enlighten me?

    Thanks!
    I'm on 100g of carbs/day...in other words, ATM, I am not a very happy person :/



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    Here are the cliff notes on the differences:

    Erase - synthetic AI

    Erase Pro - synthetic AI, SERM ingredient with cortisol control, in situ AI

    Erase Pro a full spectrum hormone modulator targeting more than just 1 pathway. Each cap has a full 75mg of the Erase active ingredient in it, so there is 3 capsules of Erase in 1 Erase Pro capsule, plus 1 ingredient that directly blocks the estrogen receptor (like SERMs), and 1 ingredient that has shown to act as an AI in specific tissues.

    So Erase Pro is going to be more potent for whatever use you choose, whether it be a standalone or a PCT, simply because it is Erase + a whole lot more.
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  3.  01-08-2012  09:29 PM
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    Here is a great breakdown of the new ingredients in Erase Pro

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    Thanks for the clarifying Natty!


    So how come you guys are keeping erase around? Just so if anybody just wants an AI?
    I'm on 100g of carbs/day...in other words, ATM, I am not a very happy person :/

  5.  01-08-2012  09:54 PM
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    Exactly. Some people like formulations (Erase Pro), some people like to create their own with single ingredients

    We give the luxury of both options
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    When you say synthetic, do you mean it isn't dshea compliant and derived naturally?

    I thought it was a metabolite of 7 keto dhea? This can't be made from natural sources, and is synthesized in a lab?
    Curious....

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    Originally Posted by jbryand101b
    When you say synthetic, do you mean it isn't dshea compliant and derived naturally?

    I thought it was a metabolite of 7 keto dhea? This can't be made from natural sources, and is synthesized in a lab?
    Curious....
    Synthetic has nothing to do with where its found or whether its compliant. It means that the ingredient is in its pure form derived from a chemical synthesis.

    Sort of like you can either buy caffeine extracted from coffee beans, or buy synthetic caffeine like everyone uses in soda, preworkouts, etc.

    Synthetic is the good stuff
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    Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    Synthetic has nothing to do with where its found or whether its compliant. It means that the ingredient is in its pure form derived from a chemical synthesis.

    Sort of like you can either buy caffeine extracted from coffee beans, or buy synthetic caffeine like everyone uses in soda, preworkouts, etc.

    Synthetic is the good stuff


    This.

    For whatever reason in the supplement community there's this prevailing set of stereotypes regarding natural and synthetic substances.

    Synthetics are supposely harder, with automatically harsher side effects, are more effective and are more likely to be illegal or dangerous.

    "Natural" substances are supposedly more mild and somehow can't be illegal or bad for you.

    Magic mushrooms are illegal and strychnine is toxic, though they're both organic. Not everything natural is good for you and not everything processed is bad (or regulated).

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    Originally Posted by nattydisaster
    Here are the cliff notes on the differences:

    Erase - synthetic AI

    Erase Pro - synthetic AI, SERM ingredient with cortisol control, in situ AI

    Erase Pro a full spectrum hormone modulator targeting more than just 1 pathway. Each cap has a full 75mg of the Erase active ingredient in it, so there is 3 capsules of Erase in 1 Erase Pro capsule, plus 1 ingredient that directly blocks the estrogen receptor (like SERMs), and 1 ingredient that has shown to act as an AI in specific tissues.

    So Erase Pro is going to be more potent for whatever use you choose, whether it be a standalone or a PCT, simply because it is Erase + a whole lot more.
    No way...

    This is my typical luck. I bought Erase last week and now your telling me you have a product that does the same and more AND you only need 1 cap...

    Where can I get this stuff and how much more does it cost??

    FML seriously
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    Originally Posted by Jonbero View Post
    No way...This is my typical luck. I bought Erase last week and now your telling me you have a product that does the same and more AND you only need 1 cap...Where can I get this stuff and how much more does it cost??FML seriously
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    Originally Posted by J19891 View Post
    This.

    For whatever reason in the supplement community there's this prevailing set of stereotypes regarding natural and synthetic substances.

    Synthetics are supposely harder, with automatically harsher side effects, are more effective and are more likely to be illegal or dangerous.

    "Natural" substances are supposedly more mild and somehow can't be illegal or bad for you.

    Magic mushrooms are illegal and strychnine is toxic, though they're both organic. Not everything natural is good for you and not everything processed is bad (or regulated).
    im not sure what you are talking about but it has nothing to do with my question.

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    Does Erase speed up the thyroid as well considering it's 7, Keto Dhea?

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    Wait it's *** only? Ok when is it going to be NOT *** only...come on that's over priced troll town
    I'm on 100g of carbs/day...in other words, ATM, I am not a very happy person :/

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    Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    im not sure what you are talking about but it has nothing to do with my question.
    Your question implied that synthetic= not DSHEA compliant and derived from natural sources. Technically, everything synthetic is derived from natural sources. I was just making an observation that a lot of people are mistrustful of synthetics and blindly trusting of "all natural" products.

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    if it's synthized, even from natural sources, i believe technically it isn't dshea comliant, if it is extracted from a natural source, like say, as a metabolite from someone or something that injested 7keto-dhea, then (for now) it would be dshea compliant

    at least, this is the impression im under, as it seems to be the main concern for companies releasing a new product, who have had fda problems in the past

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    Originally Posted by Colbert View Post
    Wait it's *** only? Ok when is it going to be NOT *** only...come on that's over priced troll town
    i shop there, prices aren't that bad, if you are a good shopper and have a gold card

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    You list Erase Pro as a cortisol and anti-estrogen supplement. I know it boosts testosterone, but how much? Would you still recommend adding a testosterone booster such as Activate for a PCT a protocol?
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    Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    if it's synthized, even from natural sources, i believe technically it isn't dshea comliant, if it is extracted from a natural source, like say, as a metabolite from someone or something that injested 7keto-dhea, then (for now) it would be dshea compliant

    at least, this is the impression im under, as it seems to be the main concern for companies releasing a new product, who have had fda problems in the past
    Metabolites of DHEA are compliant. Theres no such thing as DHEA extract or the metabolites for that matter. Just like theres no such thing as creatine extract, glutamine extract, etc.

    Originally Posted by AtomicFox View Post
    You list Erase Pro as a cortisol and anti-estrogen supplement. I know it boosts testosterone, but how much? Would you still recommend adding a testosterone booster such as Activate for a PCT a protocol?
    i dont see the need...try it and see. If i was going to add anything else i would toss in 3g DAA powder
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    i see, hmmm... okay, thanks for clearing that up.

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