Why is soy protein hated?

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    yeah makes sense.
    I was looking for a good MRP powder.
    I looked at universal uni syn and I may give that go much higher in protein & quality but maltodextrin for carbs... but only 24g of them.
    well judging by your posts in nutrition section.....and what you eat and the amount lol.....I'd say maltodextrin is fine for you, especially in that amount of 24 grams. Its really best for PWO for some quick assimilating liquid carbs....but its not really that bad on the GI index if I recall. As I was saying though, you're eating a lot of cal's....like 4 grand, so a few hits of 24 grams maltodextrin is a drop in the pan really. Also the fats and other carbs from your milk/ice cream or what have you, or any fiber, will change the GI content of the carbs. Again judging from what you throw in your drinks lol


  2. Quote Originally Posted by PVL

    just slam a can of tuna, 33g and no carbs........
    Aw sh1t 100 calories ain't going to do **** for me.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6 View Post
    well judging by your posts in nutrition section.....and what you eat and the amount lol.....I'd say maltodextrin is fine for you, especially in that amount of 24 grams. Its really best for PWO for some quick assimilating liquid carbs....but its not really that bad on the GI index if I recall. As I was saying though, you're eating a lot of cal's....like 4 grand, so a few hits of 24 grams maltodextrin is a drop in the pan really. Also the fats and other carbs from your milk/ice cream or what have you, or any fiber, will change the GI content of the carbs. Again judging from what you throw in your drinks lol
    more like what he doesnt throw in his drinks, lol!

    aaron, take it easy on those big shakes man........no need for 30kcals a day man...........

  4. True... Fuk it
    Thx for the help guys.

    I'm trying not to be a hardgainer
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by PVL View Post
    more like what he doesnt throw in his drinks, lol!

    aaron, take it easy on those big shakes man........no need for 30kcals a day man...........
    hahahahaha! nobody else would have probably believed me, but you saw "the shake" ingredient list. the 24 grams of maltodextrin equals "not a significant amount of calories to be counted" in THAT shake LOL!
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6 View Post
    hahahahaha! nobody else would have probably believed me, but you saw "the shake" ingredient list. the 24 grams of maltodextrin equals "not a significant amount of calories to be counted" in THAT shake LOL!
    ****, thats one sip bro for him...........lmao!

    its like, have some shake with that sugar..............geez aaron..........take it easy or u will turn into michellin man bro........

  7. best shake ive ever had.

    8 oz liquid egg whites, 4 scoop of chocolate pro complex (120g protein) 6 tablespoons home made macadamia/pecan butter, cinnamon. oh and ICE 8 cubes

    i only eat 2x a day Aaron. and this leaves me my nighttime indulgence of more fat. and 100-150g protein.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by ssbackwards View Post
    best shake ive ever had.

    8 oz liquid egg whites, 4 scoop of chocolate pro complex (120g protein) 6 tablespoons home made macadamia/pecan butter, cinnamon. oh and ICE 8 cubes

    i only eat 2x a day Aaron. and this leaves me my nighttime indulgence of more fat. and 100-150g protein.
    see thats a decent shake without carbs man.........its the carbs/sugar that make u fat

  9. Quote Originally Posted by PVL View Post
    see thats a decent shake without carbs man.........its the carbs/sugar that make u fat
    i bulk and cut the same way...

    no carbs.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by PVL View Post
    see thats a decent shake without carbs man.........its the carbs/sugar that make u fat
    Carbs dont make you fat
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by ssbackwards View Post
    i bulk and cut the same way...

    no carbs.
    just add healthy fat and protein right? that what i do now, i usually keep carbs under 150 a day........being 240......i never get fat now

  12. Quote Originally Posted by ssbackwards
    best shake ive ever had.

    8 oz liquid egg whites, 4 scoop of chocolate pro complex (120g protein) 6 tablespoons home made macadamia/pecan butter, cinnamon. oh and ICE 8 cubes

    i only eat 2x a day Aaron. and this leaves me my nighttime indulgence of more fat. and 100-150g protein.
    But you dont have 1 meal and 1 shake right?
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post
    Carbs dont make you fat
    post a pic..........prove me wrong

  14. Quote Originally Posted by PVL View Post
    post a pic..........prove me wrong
    ?

    What does a picture prove?
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    But you dont have 1 meal and 1 shake right?
    i certainly hope not......u gotta split ur shakes up to about 4 to be honest, a lot of cals at one sitting isnt good. hard to digest it all at once and a lot will get stored as bodyfat

  16. Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post
    ?

    What does a picture prove?
    a thousand words........lmao

  17. Quote Originally Posted by PVL View Post
    just add healthy fat and protein right? that what i do now, i usually keep carbs under 150 a day........being 240......i never get fat now
    my carbs are under 50 a day with fiber included.

    i dont eat carbs bc they hurt my stomach, in any form, and i have better energy with out them.

    carbs arent evil. and they dont really make you fat, its just mis used timing of it.

    id rather go over my calorie intake doing a refeed (carbs and protein only) then Fat, although i can do both because i allow myself to alternate between trhe 2, fat is already readily stored as fat.

    carbs still have to be converted.

  18. This sh1t is crazy.
    Every1 has their own ideas on what works for them.

    I'm listing and combining them to try it out....
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by PVL View Post
    ****, thats one sip bro for him...........lmao!
    hahaha, you crack me up man. You got a similar sense of humor to me, but just more crazy LMFAO

  20. Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    But you dont have 1 meal and 1 shake right?
    nope i eat whole foods doing this diet.

    but if i didnt have time, i would have the shake.

    its really overall not that bad, it still ends up being a tone of whole food.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post
    ?

    What does a picture prove?
    duno man, but i got a picture i took after ****loading yesterday with like 30 cookies, spagettie and meatballs (pound of gluten free pasta), and a ton of eggplant rolatini.

    and go figure... im not fat.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by PVL View Post
    just add healthy fat and protein right? that what i do now, i usually keep carbs under 150 a day........being 240......i never get fat now
    at my age I find 50-170 carbs a day, zigzag kinda deal, works best for me. probably ends up around 120 carbs a day average since I don't see double digit carbs much even though I said 50-170 lol. more like 100-170.....

  23. Quote Originally Posted by ssbackwards

    nope i eat whole foods doing this diet.

    but if i didnt have time, i would have the shake.

    its really overall not that bad, it still ends up being a tone of whole food.
    Going to check out the warrior diet.

    Every1 says something different, low carbs, low calories, eat this way 6 meals, eat that way (fasting)

    Freaking head is spinning
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    This sh1t is crazy.
    Every1 has their own ideas on what works for them.

    I'm listing and combining them to try it out....
    thats why there are only a handful of pro bodybuilders dude..........the sooner u understand ur genetics, the freakier u will look.........

  25. Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    Going to check out the warrior diet.

    Every1 says something different, low carbs, low calories, eat this way 6 meals, eat that way (fasting)

    Freaking head is spinning
    comes down to when you can eat all of your macros.

    when finishing up my diet i was doing 1700 cals 1x a day then fasting till next meal which happened to be 24-28 hours later. its what works.

  26. What's the deal with warrior diet
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  27. Quote Originally Posted by ssbackwards View Post
    comes down to when you can eat all of your macros.

    when finishing up my diet i was doing 1700 cals 1x a day then fasting till next meal which happened to be 24-28 hours later. its what works.
    bingo, not every body is the same........some guys can eat hella carbs, others can hardly eat any and eat tons of fat and protein........

    usually if u are of northern euro decent, u gotta keep carbs low and always do cardio............ive always been big, just staying lean was hard until i figured out my body.

  28. Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    What's the deal with warrior diet
    i kinda dont agree with it, its some mild grazing for like 20 hours or so not really getting a lot of food, and then one huge meal i believe.

  29. Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    What's the deal with warrior diet
    basically eat like a caveman..........meat, dairy, fruit and veggies........nuts and seeds.......

  30. Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    What's the deal with warrior diet
    I have a post on it in the IF thread if your curious what it looks like
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