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    getting big and cut


    I have tried a lot of supplements and I haven't had anything work I don't want to take a steroids I'm looking more towards a hgh I need advice

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    Well, age, diet, training, bodyfat%, height, weight, etc. are all going to be important factors.

    How about you start with those and then we can see if we can find something for you.

    FYI, even though there are some great supplements out there, there are no magic pills that are going to do this for you. Most of it is going to be done in the kitchen and it takes time and discipline.
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    You could go to test boosters. U could try hghpro and testopro . I haven't actually used those. But it's an option for u.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MidwestBeast

    FYI, even though there are some great supplements out there, there are no magic pills that are going to do this for you. Most of it is going to be done in the kitchen and it takes time and discipline.
    Agreed . ...
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    24 yrs 5'8 Hispanic eats a lot of rice what kind of diet is recommended?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mike27
    24 yrs 5'8 Hispanic eats a lot of rice what kind of diet is recommended?
    One to make you big? Or ripped?

    Meats, eggs, and maybe milk. And a lot of slow digesting unprocessed whole food carbs. Healthy fats.
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    Get cut more then getting bigger
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    Quote Originally Posted by mike27
    Get cut more then getting bigger
    Minus the carbs for all meals cept post workout. And once a week eat what ever you want to once.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mike27 View Post
    I have tried a lot of supplements and I haven't had anything work I don't want to take a steroids I'm looking more towards a hgh I need advice
    What have you tried?

    What is your diet like? Specifics please.

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    Weight and bodyfat %?

    Training Experience?

    Type of training?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MidwestBeast View Post
    Weight and bodyfat %?

    Training Experience?

    Type of training?
    This, and what else do you eat? I'm sure you eat other things than rice. Calorie/Macro breakdown?
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    That would be funny if all he ate was rice. That would explain everything. It's possible you know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag View Post
    Minus the carbs for all meals cept post workout. And once a week eat what ever you want to once.
    all he eats is rice.......you trying to kill the SOB?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6

    all he eats is rice.......you trying to kill the SOB?
    Trying to get him to eat gods gift to man.... Meat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag View Post
    Trying to get him to eat gods gift to man.... Meat.
    yeah I know, but you gotta admit it was funny! I eat me a lot of beef lo mein with like 6 oz flank steak in there, or wendy's double cheeseburgers when I can fit them in. Ok I eat the wendy's doubles too much, I admit it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6

    yeah I know, but you gotta admit it was funny! I eat me a lot of beef lo mein with like 6 oz flank steak in there, or wendy's double cheeseburgers when I can fit them in. Ok I eat the wendy's doubles too much, I admit it.
    Hehe. You know you're bulking when you eat like that!!
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    before you try your luck with hgh thats if you "qualify" as a legit lifter id say try your luck with ghrp an cjc just my .02
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag View Post
    Hehe. You know you're bulking when you eat like that!!
    I can work it in on a maintenance or diet as well...... i just take in (lots of) bcaa/aminos PWO then like 50-70 grams whey later.....maybe a chicken or turkey on wheat sandwich later.....a chicken breast or some more whey later.....but then eat a burger or some beef lo mein as the only high calorie thing I do.....and the only real source of carbs for the day, everything else is like a few hundred cals each time and equals around 50 grams of protein and minimal carbs. So you can add up to 250-300 grams of protein, and low 100's or less for carbs and only 2200-2400 cals.
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    carb cycling good for recomp or ive read up on carb back loading (aka warrior diet) caught my eye a bit controversial though worth a shot IMO
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    I think cycling the carbs is a better idea than a keto diet for sure. you can take in 50-90 some days, and 150--170 other days.....throw in a 200-300 carb day once a week or so....if you can do some days around the 30 or so on the keto diets (this is hard lol). there are so many random carbs in food and even protein powders that they add up to 30 REALLY quick.
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    ¿Donde esta el OP?
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    This guy is super unknowing ......half the things we say will almost be pointless.

    What i will say is this ---- Keep reading, be persistent and not lazy. Find your answers and in time you will start to "get it."

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