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The aromatase enzyme converts testosterone to Estradiol.

Inhibition of the enzyme means less testosterone gets converted to estradiol, so less estradial forms.

Erase is an aromatase inhibitor
 

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so estradiol is a type of estrogen? when you say "lowers estrogen" does that mean that it lowers all type of estrogen?
 
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estradiol is E2 or the commonly referred to Estrogen.

Estrogens themselves though could mean estradiol, estriol, or estrone

Inhibition of aromatase will lower estradiol and estrone

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Steroidogenesis.svg

Estriol is mostly only present in pregnant women
Like he said. Estradiol is the more potent form, I believe estrone is something like 1/12th as potent a form of estrogen. Do you want to supress estradiol exclusively? If so, why?
 
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I3C specificly targets E2 estrogen. It's cheap, effective and proven.
 

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wait, so Erase isn't even a 100% certain AI? Anybody got bloods?
 
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check out reversitol v2. there are logs in both our company section as well as the logs/review sections.


every tester on here has loved it so far :)
 
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wait, so Erase isn't even a 100% certain AI? Anybody got bloods?
where did you pick up that from all this?

i've seen someones bloods on here on 1 gram of testE/week and 3 caps of Erase had his estrogen in the 30's

i've also used it on multiple test cycles and it's become my AI of choice

Lookin swole!
thanks natty :sly:
 

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where did you pick up that from all this?

i've seen someones bloods on here on 1 gram of testE/week and 3 caps of Erase had his estrogen in the 30's

i've also used it on multiple test cycles and it's become my AI of choice



thanks natty :sly:

"Is Erase 7OH or 7b hydroxy or some weird desoxy form of 7keto?

I know that the AI properties may be possible, but is it also anti-androgenic?"
 
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check out reversitol v2. there are logs in both our company section as well as the logs/review sections.


every tester on here has loved it so far :)
Looks nice -- Didn't Gaspari have to remove the ATD from novedex xt?

-Matt
 
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"Is Erase 7OH or 7b hydroxy or some weird desoxy form of 7keto?

I know that the AI properties may be possible, but is it also anti-androgenic?"
oh, erase has 7,17-dione so no 7-oh anywhere and it lacks the 3-oh if that's what was meant by desoxy form of 7-keto

atd was an anti androgen in the brains of rats at high doses iirc

there is no doubt erase has potent AI properties.. cort control is a bonus
 
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oh, erase has 7,17-dione so no 7-oh anywhere and it lacks the 3-oh if that's what was meant by desoxy form of 7-keto

atd was an anti androgen in the brains of rats at high doses iirc

there is no doubt erase has potent AI properties.. cort control is a bonus

This. Having used erase as well as pharm grade AI's, I've seen first hand how crazy strong this one is for an OTC. IMO it's the be all end all for AI's.
 
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atd was an anti androgen in the brains of rats at high doses iirc
exactly... The whole killed libido wasnt an effect of anti androgenic effects but rather an absolutely obliterated level of estrogens.... I actually had some CRAZY strength gains using ATD stand alone natty at 75mg nightly a couple hours before working out... if it has any interaction at the AR in humans at all Id be willing to wager its positive ones....
 
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exactly... The whole killed libido wasnt an effect of anti androgenic effects but rather an absolutely obliterated level of estrogens.... I actually had some CRAZY strength gains using ATD stand alone natty at 75mg nightly a couple hours before working out... if it has any interaction at the AR in humans at all Id be willing to wager its positive ones....
Ha! very true. the whole anti-androgen scare was quite funny, and i fell for it as well at one point :bsflag:

atd was mostly marketed as a test booster and not an AI. you're not the first person i've heard who had great performance results from it
 
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oh, erase has 7,17-dione so no 7-oh anywhere and it lacks the 3-oh if that's what was meant by desoxy form of 7-keto

atd was an anti androgen in the brains of rats at high doses iirc

there is no doubt erase has potent AI properties.. cort control is a bonus
Thats reassuring -- Product seems great, good job PES.

-Matt
 
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I'm not saying this is a good or bad AI, I would just like to see some bloods to confirm your claims about the product. Everything I've seen thus far is emperical.
 

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