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Alpha GPC vs. CDP Choline vs. Choline Citrate

  1.  12-15-2011  11:34 AM
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    I would also add 2-3 raw brazil nuts for the Selenium in them..



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    Originally Posted by ssbackwards View Post
    im going to say CDP Choline, its one of the best out there, not cheap though if i remember correctly.

    but in your staple list i would 110% drop the agmatine as its shown to agonize the Alpha 2 Adrenoreceptor which is obviously not something someone in your position would want to do in any respect.

    also id stick with only one carnitine, like ALCAR, and wouldnt dose too high as Carnitine is shown to lower T3 levels (in hyerthyroid individuals, not sure in your case though but best to keep that dosing per day under 1g for your sake.)

    i would also add some magnesium to that list. its seriously super important.

    also to touch on NaR-ALA- ALA has been shown to reduce conversion of sythetic t4 (synthroid) to active t3. couple this along with too much carnitine and agmatine that may help you lose a little more weight and clear up some thyroidal issues.
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    Also look into calcium. a good amount 3000 mg, only if not Hyper Parathyroidism. if so there may be a phosphorus deficiency, and it may mask vitamin D deficency.
    Good advice as always, my friend.

    CDP is certainly the most expensive (on a gram for gram basis, at least). Since I've never used a choline source, I think I may just start off with the citrate and then put in an order for the CDP, later. Again, I'm not using any of this stuff until the medical situation is resolved.

    Interesting on the agmatine; I hadn't heard that at all. If that's the case, why does it get such rave reviews with people using it daily?

    Good info on the carnitine; I'll be sure to keep those number monitored.

    Magnesium was on my list, but when I had that checked last, it was in a good spot in range and I didn't want to put it too high. Same with calcium and everything else that I didn't list, but you'd think I should be taking.

    With the NaR-ALA, I currently only take T3 and haven't used T4 since June. I'll be sure to remember that if I end up back on Synthroid, at all.
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    Originally Posted by RealBigga View Post
    ssbackwards, can u recommend a good mag/cal combo supplement?

    is this one any good?

    Supplement Facts
    Serving Size: 3 Capsules
    Servings per Container: 60

    Amount Per Serving % Daily Value

    Vitamin D3 (Cholecalciferol) 700 IU 175%
    Calcium (as calcium citrate, calcium malate) 500 mg 50%
    Magnesium (as magnesium oxide) 250 mg 63%
    Malic Acid (from calcium malate) 650 mg *

    *Daily value not established.
    i use something called Bone Meal, its a powdered one i get from vitamin shop. I also use nature bounty Calcium D3 . think it has k2 in there, and i have seperate nature bounty magnesium.

    i do 4 caps of each per day. got them at BJs pretty cheap.

    big name brands is what you want to go for. D3 should be at 5000iu per day IMO, and magnesium between 500-1500mg per day ( i used 1200mg)

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    Originally Posted by MidwestBeast View Post
    Good advice as always, my friend.

    CDP is certainly the most expensive (on a gram for gram basis, at least). Since I've never used a choline source, I think I may just start off with the citrate and then put in an order for the CDP, later. Again, I'm not using any of this stuff until the medical situation is resolved.

    Interesting on the agmatine; I hadn't heard that at all. If that's the case, why does it get such rave reviews with people using it daily?

    Good info on the carnitine; I'll be sure to keep those number monitored.

    Magnesium was on my list, but when I had that checked last, it was in a good spot in range and I didn't want to put it too high. Same with calcium and everything else that I didn't list, but you'd think I should be taking.

    With the NaR-ALA, I currently only take T3 and haven't used T4 since June. I'll be sure to remember that if I end up back on Synthroid, at all.
    i remember in our email we spoke about specific calcium testing. there were 2 different tests that can show things that may or may not be a number to go by.

    Agmatine is neuro protective i believe, i think people see such good effect is a "pump" which is never really necessary. id stop that and see how it works.

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    Choline Citrate does nothing for me except take the dull headache away from Aniracetam. CDP Choline seems to "wake up" my brain a little more, but is too expensive for what it is. Alpha GPC is hands down the best for me. Within days I notice the alertness and recall so much more and the added benefit of GH makes it an absolute winner. In the last 10 years, I've only gone without it on a handful of occasions and I notice the effects dwindling after about 5-7 days. Get back on it and life is just better.

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