NAC vs Na-Rala

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by criticalbench View Post
    Reading it, thats what I thought.. a synergistic effect.


    Mike
    yes and no.

    its shown to be used for HYPERthyroidism. natural way to slow thyroid. instead of radioactive iodine.


  2. @ssbackwards,

    Thanks for posting those studies, after reading those and a couple others, my general understanding is that carnitines use in hyperthyroidism is through two different mechanisms. Oral carnitine administration will reduce the symptoms (not necessarily the actual disease) of hyperthyroidism by replenishing the bodies carnitine stores once they have been depleted by excess circulating T3/T4. Beyond that it seems carnitine has a slight regulatory effect on T3/T4 entrance into the cell nucleus and/or cytoplasm (peripheral antagonism?) of certain tissues, the mechanism of which I could not find so anything I say in that regard will be useless lol.

    What I take from that is that it is safe to use carnitine under a euthyroid condition as long as it is not in great excess, otherwise we would have all sorts of people going hypothyroid with the mass use of carnitine, and that in order to prevent hyperthyroid symptoms while taking T3 on a scale that will amplify fatloss, it is a good idea to supplement with carnitine.

    Sorry if that was already apparent to everyone, I just gotta say it myself sometimes before it really sinks in.
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  3. So i guess i should lay off the LCLT while on t3 huh?? (only taking 1500mgED)

  4. Quote Originally Posted by gymrat827 View Post
    So i guess i should lay off the LCLT while on t3 huh?? (only taking 1500mgED)
    Curious too. As I am getting ready to begin t3 along with currently used t4 to treat hypothyroidism. Would 2g LCLT be wise or not?

  5. Quote Originally Posted by rambofireball View Post
    @ssbackwards,

    Thanks for posting those studies, after reading those and a couple others, my general understanding is that carnitines use in hyperthyroidism is through two different mechanisms. Oral carnitine administration will reduce the symptoms (not necessarily the actual disease) of hyperthyroidism by replenishing the bodies carnitine stores once they have been depleted by excess circulating T3/T4. Beyond that it seems carnitine has a slight regulatory effect on T3/T4 entrance into the cell nucleus and/or cytoplasm (peripheral antagonism?) of certain tissues, the mechanism of which I could not find so anything I say in that regard will be useless lol.

    What I take from that is that it is safe to use carnitine under a euthyroid condition as long as it is not in great excess, otherwise we would have all sorts of people going hypothyroid with the mass use of carnitine, and that in order to prevent hyperthyroid symptoms while taking T3 on a scale that will amplify fatloss, it is a good idea to supplement with carnitine.

    Sorry if that was already apparent to everyone, I just gotta say it myself sometimes before it really sinks in.
    basically it comes down to law of diminishing returns i feel like. too little you feel like **** too much counterproductive
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by gymrat827 View Post
    So i guess i should lay off the LCLT while on t3 huh?? (only taking 1500mgED)
    Quote Originally Posted by jgraves31 View Post
    Curious too. As I am getting ready to begin t3 along with currently used t4 to treat hypothyroidism. Would 2g LCLT be wise or not?
    lay off no. use no more then 2g in my opinion yes.

    if on t4, no ALA. if using t4 and T3 you can use ALA just becareful when you come off as the synthriod effects will be reduced from ALA

    Also i recommend a calcium supplement to keep thryroid in check.

    http://www.fasebj.org/content/15/2/291.full

    agouti is shown to raise rT3 and show low or low normal levels of t3 and t4 while TSH is somewhat "normal"
    http://endo.endojournals.org/content/143/10/3846.short
    posted this in the Lean Gains/ IF discussion log a couple minutes ago. for more studies on agouti and thyroid.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by tunnelrat View Post
    How much more potent an antioxidant is Na-Rala? Night and day?
    id use both
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by Blergs View Post
    id use both
    What I do
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