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  1. Blue GrowtH is another one to check out
    All good products that help with sleep, recovery and GH release.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by Royd The Noyd View Post
    Just curious but why do you hold water from huperzine a?
    to be honest i dont know...

    however i do know that studies show mild water retention.

    along with insomnia. i get the water retention though. may have something to do with kidney?

    not sure.

    looking for the journal article i saw a while back.
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  3. I use 2 caps of powerFULL and 3 caps of HGH surge by source naturals. I take meds from a sleep specialist because on insomnia so i only take the GH stuff for better sleep quality.

    I have been taking some sort of natty GH booster for so long to help sleep it would be very hard to determine what type of muscle gain/fat loss ive experienced.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by ssbackwards

    I have bulk LCLT not much , but i also take some PLCAR pre bed. in a non stim fat burner.
    I too currently take 2g lclt and 1.6g beta alanine a day...

    What benefits can be had from plcar that can't be received from the others I'm taking?



    And 1-carboxy is the bulk high extraction of l-dopa in USPLabs Powerfull... Very strong stuff.

    How much huperizine a do you take as a standalone supplement and do you only dose pre bed?
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by Sourdough View Post
    I too currently take 2g lclt and 1.6g beta alanine a day...

    What benefits can be had from plcar that can't be received from the others I'm taking?



    And 1-carboxy is the bulk high extraction of l-dopa in USPLabs Powerfull... Very strong stuff.

    How much huperizine a do you take as a standalone supplement and do you only dose pre bed?
    Basically PLCAR supports healthy myocardial contractility, heart muscle metabolism, heart cell membrane stability, skeletal muscle metabolism.


    l-Carnitine Tartrate:

    Tartrate, naturally found in some foods, acts to stabilize l-carnitine. l-Carnitine is a dipeptide found in great abundance in the body, especially the heart and skeletal muscle. It maintains efficient fat utilization by transporting long-chain fatty acids into the mitochondria where they can be broken down by a process called beta oxidation (fat metabolism) to produce energy. A recent study reported that oral l-carnitine supplementation in healthy subjects promotes optimal long-chain fatty acid oxidation. Additionally, l-carnitine helps to clear short and medium chain fatty acids from the mitochondria that would otherwise accumulate over time. This helps to keep metabolic processes running smoothly and efficiently. l-Carnitine also promotes cardiovascular health by supporting ventricular function and antioxidant activity. Additionally research also suggests a role for l-carnitine in supporting muscle repair after strenuous exercise. The results of one study indicated an attenuation of muscle strain and fatigue when exercisers were given l-carnitine-l-tartrate supplements prior to completing a high repetition strength regimen, suggesting l-carnitine may help reduce post-exercise recovery time.


    References:

    Muller DM, Seim H, Kiess W, Loster H, Richter T. Effects of oral L-carnitine supplementation on in vivo long-chain fatty acid oxidation in healthy adults. Metabolism 2002; 51(11): 1389-91.

    Sirtori CR, Calabresi L, Ferrara S, Pazzucconi F, Bondioli A, Baldassarre D, Birreci A, Koverech A. L-carnitine reduces plasma lipoprotein(a) levels in patients with hyper Lp(a). Nutr Metab Cardiovasc Dis 2000 Oct;10(5):247-51.

    Gurlek A et al. The effects of L-carnitine treatment on left ventricular function and erythrocyte superoxide dismutase activity in patients with ischemic cardiomyopathy. Eur J Heart Fail 2000 Jun;2(2):189-93.

    Volek JS, Kraemer WJ, Rubin MR, Gomez AL, Ratamess NA, Gaynor P. L-Carnitine L-tartrate supplementation favorably affects markers of recovery from exercise stress. Am J Physiol Endocrinol Metab 2002 Feb;282(2):E474-82.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by Sourdough View Post
    How much huperizine a do you take as a standalone supplement and do you only dose pre bed?
    I wouldn't take Huperzine A pre bed it may keep you awake, test the waters first.


  7. While that's good and all, I already know the benefits of lclt and the end effects of l-carnatine.....

    But the point of plcar is increasing l-carnatine levels as well... So what I need to know is if there are any intrinsic effects receivedfrom plcar supplementation that im not already receiving with lclt and the down stream creation of l-carnatine?

    Or are they basically the same?
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by itzDodge

    I wouldn't take Huperzine A pre bed it may keep you awake, test the waters first.
    I've taken it included in HGHup at the max dose... Its in a proprietary blend so who knows how much was effectively used... But def no sleeping problems
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by Sourdough View Post
    I too currently take 2g lclt and 1.6g beta alanine a day...

    What benefits can be had from plcar that can't be received from the others I'm taking?



    And 1-carboxy is the bulk high extraction of l-dopa in USPLabs Powerfull... Very strong stuff.

    How much huperizine a do you take as a standalone supplement and do you only dose pre bed?
    only pre bed yes.

    Its vitamin shoppe brand with ginko, so i just take one of those.

    basically its all L carn just different kinds. Its all an L carnitine base. some more available then others, but l carnitine all helps.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by itzDodge View Post
    I wouldn't take Huperzine A pre bed it may keep you awake, test the waters first.
    i can take clen or ephedrine pre bed with t3 and have no issues falling asleep what so ever.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by ssbackwards View Post
    i can take clen or ephedrine pre bed with t3 and have no issues falling asleep what so ever.
    You're either an anomaly or have abused the compounds for far too long


  12. Quote Originally Posted by itzDodge View Post
    You're either an anomaly or have abused the compounds for far too long
    for clen i never go over 100mcg

    im on it 2 weeks on 2 weeks off, i dont assess dose i go stright to 100mcg ever time

    my tolerance is retarded. Even with narcotics. which is weird. which i only take to make me sleep before an abnormally long tattoo sesh

  13. Quote Originally Posted by ssbackwards View Post
    So, Although i can go on a buying spree of certain products at kilos (minimum) and spend an assload of money. Id rather see whats out there now already bottles so i dont have to parachute 10 diff powders along with weighing them out.

    Now i KNOW my GH levels are low (about 43 off from being under range). Id like to see what i can get to maybe increase them a little without buying HGH frag etc.

    I have IGF1 (peptide) for my bulk.

    i want a good supplement

    anything?

    company sponsors? woo me with your magic
    Mine started to slide so now I use GHRP-2 at 200 ug before bed. It has made a difference in my recovery and has helped with some arthritis.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by ssbackwards View Post
    for clen i never go over 100mcg

    im on it 2 weeks on 2 weeks off, i dont assess dose i go stright to 100mcg ever time

    my tolerance is retarded. Even with narcotics. which is weird. which i only take to make me sleep before an abnormally long tattoo sesh
    I assume you can feel it taper off though, 100 mcg is a decent dose and I myself may give it a shot at some point next spring to see how cut I can get but the general sides seem to make it not worth it. It is chemically superior to ephedrine for weight loss but I feel pretty mild on ephedrine, did 4 x 25mg a day a few times last semester when I was going to be up late anyways.

    The one thing that makes me feel wired is 1,3 D or a lot of caffeine other wise its just a nice energy hit.


  15. Quote Originally Posted by itzDodge View Post
    I assume you can feel it taper off though, 100 mcg is a decent dose and I myself may give it a shot at some point next spring to see how cut I can get but the general sides seem to make it not worth it. It is chemically superior to ephedrine for weight loss but I feel pretty mild on ephedrine, did 4 x 25mg a day a few times last semester when I was going to be up late anyways.

    The one thing that makes me feel wired is 1,3 D or a lot of caffeine other wise its just a nice energy hit.
    I dont feel the need to taper off it. unless im on it longer then 2-8 weeks.

    Ephdrine im using based on the fact its lower half life and thus adrenaline resistance can be controlled a little bit easier if given 12 hours or so between last dose and next dose. as opposed to clen which is constnant stimulation on adrenal cortex.

    i was never a fan of 1,3

  16. Quote Originally Posted by itzDodge

    You're either an anomaly or have abused the compounds for far too long
    I really don't think this is true. I can personally take ephedrine and up to 50mg even and not feel "stimulated" I do get a bit of euphoria but I've taken 25mg on multiple occasions pre bed as I use it for its intended propose during the allergy season so I can breath and I sleep fine....

    Also was an ADD child.... May have a lot to do with how stimulants effect different people
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  17. Ephedrine by itself won't give you a big jolt, but toss in some caffeine and you have a different story.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  18. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Ephedrine by itself won't give you a big jolt, but toss in some caffeine and you have a different story.
    i take it all before bed.. no issues.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by ssbackwards View Post
    Sure!

    I sent you a PM already about maybe running both (wouldnt ask for both id pay for the other)

    gimme dosing sched, just let me know what you want from me in terms of logging.

    I am on a bunch of stuff.

    T3 ephendrine a custom capsule burner additional bulk olive leaf extract 10%.

    i have huperazine A.
    the olive leaf extract is for the increased T3 levels?
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