Which fat burner is best?

**rayactr2k6** · 10-02-2011, 02:48 PM

Which fat burner is best if you dont want to lose any muscle mass?

I only have a little extra fat around the lower stomach, not looking to lose much weight, just shed the fat. I'm thinking about Atro-phex by BSN, Shred Matrix by Muscle Pharm, or Animal Cuts.

Anyone have an opinion on which one is best?

**stopstalking** · 10-02-2011, 03:01 PM

I'm really liking the profile of n2burn by need to build muscle. There are a lot of great logs on it

**flightposite** · 10-02-2011, 03:03 PM

Haven't used any of those personally but I have a buddy who used animal cuts and it worked great for him. Muscle pharm products are pretty solid from what I've seen as well. Good luck bro.

**allnatural923** · 10-02-2011, 03:14 PM

As long as your diet is in line, then you could try something like shred matrix, or even dexaprine (as long as you're ok with stimulants that is). Dexaprine is definitely solid, I'm not too sensitive to stims and I definitely feel it, that and my body composition changed on it; of course I was on a recomp diet in addition to adding that in, but it made a difference.
If you don't want the stimulants, something like tt-33 would be beneficial (works with your thyroid and fat metabolizing hormones) or even lipotrophin pm (stabilizes blood glucose levels, curb cravings, etc.)

**rayactr2k6** · 10-02-2011, 03:31 PM

thanks for the quick replies guys. I'll look into those

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**criticalbench** · 10-02-2011, 03:58 PM

Fat burners are not going to prevent muscle loss. Diet is going to dose this. Keep your protein and amino acid intake up, and muscle loss should not be an issue. I just cut down with dexaprime as my fat burner and fat great success; never lost any muscle but I utilized a high protein diet with bcaa's pre, intra, post training in addition to intra-cardio.

Mike

**cdiblasi** · 10-02-2011, 04:01 PM

Ephedrine, caffeine, a good diet, and BCAA's is probably the best stack you could put together. If you've got some extra cash, run a non-stim fatburner like Lean Xtreme alongside it.

**RickRock13** · 10-02-2011, 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by stopstalking

I'm really liking the profile of n2burn by need to build muscle. There are a lot of great logs on it

This^^

N2burn is getting some great feedback from all the logs that are popping up. If interested you can potentially run it for free (just pay shipping) by applying to log it in our N2burn logging promo

Needtobuildmuscle.com is giving away 25 bottles of N2-Burn for LOGS!!!

I must say however,there are no fat burners that prevent muscle loss. That is accomplished by the right diet and training or with AAS use.

**rayactr2k6** · 10-03-2011, 01:11 AM

Originally Posted by RickRock13

This^^

N2burn is getting some great feedback from all the logs that are popping up. If interested you can potentially run it for free (just pay shipping) by applying to log it in our N2burn logging promo

Needtobuildmuscle.com is giving away 25 bottles of N2-Burn for LOGS!!!

I must say however,there are no fat burners that prevent muscle loss. That is accomplished by the right diet and training or with AAS use.

im down. do i need to apply on your thread? i have no problem keeping a log. it would probably motivate me more anyway, and would allow some feedback on diet.

**mathew34** · 10-03-2011, 01:35 AM

Originally Posted by RickRock13

This^^

N2burn is getting some great feedback from all the logs that are popping up. If interested you can potentially run it for free (just pay shipping) by applying to log it in our N2burn logging promo

Needtobuildmuscle.com is giving away 25 bottles of N2-Burn for LOGS!!!

I must say however,there are no fat burners that prevent muscle loss. That is accomplished by the right diet and training or with AAS use.

yeah Rick.. go go go go...

**baldwanus** · 10-03-2011, 01:45 AM

EC is king for a reason....

but as far as stimmed fat burners go....could look into dexaprine or HEAT stack would be my first choices...

ORRRR
you could go with EC, and throw in a stim free fat burner like tt-33 or lean extreme for epicness

and this is all, assuming, your diet and training are in order, that always comes first

**RickRock13** · 10-03-2011, 05:36 AM

Originally Posted by rayactr2k6

im down. do i need to apply on your thread? i have no problem keeping a log. it would probably motivate me more anyway, and would allow some feedback on diet.

Yes....if interested then you need to "apply" to log N2burn in that thread. If I choose you, then you can log N2burn

**gymrat827** · 10-03-2011, 11:30 AM

N2Burn and ECA

**southpaw23** · 10-03-2011, 11:58 AM

"non rep" recommendations.

Dexaprine
Alpha- T2 with Erase
Purus Labs Fat Smack
SAN Reloaded Xtreme

**gwulbrecht72** · 10-03-2011, 12:22 PM

Fat burners aren't going to preserve muscle, I'd just take one and lift heavy to counteract muscle loss....as for products, I personally think Oxyelite is one of the better products, especially if you're looking to lose fat around the stomach, since it's supposed to help prevent fat storage around the areas of the body that want to hold it (stomach, etc)...plus it will give you insane energy. Make sure your diet is on point as well.

**Rick28** · 10-06-2011, 05:40 AM

Dexaprine is the strongest fat burner I've ever used.
I recommend OEP and Alpha T2 as well.

**CJ_Xfit89** · 10-06-2011, 05:51 AM

If I responded well to 1,3 I would be on OEP and dexaprine and combustion like a fat kid on a cake!!!! Mmmmmm :cake:

**bdcc** · 10-06-2011, 05:58 AM

Originally Posted by southpaw23

"non rep" recommendations.

Dexaprine
Alpha- T2 with Erase
Purus Labs Fat Smack
SAN Reloaded Xtreme

Originally Posted by Rick28

Dexaprine is the strongest fat burner I've ever used.
I recommend OEP and Alpha T2 as well.

Thanks guys. I am not keen on the way these threads turn into a 'fight for our business' battle so it is nice to have customers rate our products rather than the reps doing it.

Ben

**CJ_Xfit89** · 10-06-2011, 06:08 AM

Originally Posted by bdcc

Thanks guys. I am not keen on the way these threads turn into a 'fight for our business' battle so it is nice to have customers rate our products rather than the reps doing it.

Ben

Can't deny quality my good man

**Rick28** · 10-06-2011, 06:11 AM

I tried Shred Matrix and didn't like it. I preferred Atro-Phex over that but I don't plan on ever buying Atro-Phex again.

**halfhuman** · 10-06-2011, 06:30 AM

Alpha T-2, Erase and Oep or Combustion..You can even drop the oep or combustion and stick to just At-2 and erase if funds are short.
But diet is key...Also keep protein and bcaa uptake high...

**CJ_Xfit89** · 10-06-2011, 06:33 AM

Originally Posted by halfhuman

Alpha T-2, Erase and Oep or Combustion..You can even drop the oep or combustion and stick to just At-2 and erase if funds are short.
But diet is key...Also keep protein and bcaa uptake high...

Word man!cheap stack and bloody good

**halfhuman** · 10-06-2011, 06:35 AM

Originally Posted by runner_79

Word man!cheap stack and bloody good

Yes sir...I run that stack probably 2-3 times per year

**CJ_Xfit89** · 10-06-2011, 08:02 AM

Originally Posted by halfhuman

Yes sir...I run that stack probably 2-3 times per year

I'll run it with anabeta...will give an update

**halfhuman** · 10-06-2011, 08:17 AM

Originally Posted by runner_79

I'll run it with anabeta...will give an update

Running Erase and Alpha t-2 with anabeta? Ill be running Anabeta with erase in 3weeks :-)

**CJ_Xfit89** · 10-06-2011, 08:19 AM

Leaning out. Using the Anabeta for it's partitioning affects and t2 to keep it lean and erase to manage estrogen and cortisol with training

**halfhuman** · 10-06-2011, 08:23 AM

Originally Posted by runner_79

Leaning out. Using the Anabeta for it's partitioning affects and t2 to keep it lean and erase to manage estrogen and cortisol with training

Sounds good bro....How long u running it for? With the anabeta how u dosing?

**CJ_Xfit89** · 10-06-2011, 08:39 AM

2 months (8weeks)
Testing from endurance athlete perspective...

Dosing 1 pee brekky 1 pre workout 1 post and 1 pre dinner.

If I feel like j can handle it I'll shift the pre bed dose to make it 2 pre workout. I'm a low carber and I don't really wanna see a hypo lol...pass out?I'll tinker and play with dosages and give my feedback. Gotta workout the best strength for a runner routine. Was doing 2 day split of push and pull with 3 majors in it (squat deadliest and bench) but rodja suggested westside for skinny bastards...looks good. But will need posterior chain workouts and plyo's to help with stride length and mobility...any routine advice for a runner/ moving to duathlon is helpful

**ssbackwards** · 10-06-2011, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by stopstalking

I'm really liking the profile of n2burn by need to build muscle. There are a lot of great logs on it

yano the profiles pretty good, however...

theres things in there id like to know how much your getting because some ingredients need a decent dose.

and at optimal doses of all ingredients your looking at a product price that is 2x higher then what NTBM sells it for.

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