- 09-19-2011, 12:57 PM
- 09-19-2011, 03:48 PM
just take jack3d
09-19-2011, 03:50 PM
Agreed^^ use the karbolin post workout with some protein or bcaas
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09-19-2011, 03:51 PM
09-19-2011, 04:27 PM
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09-19-2011, 05:19 PM
Jack3d has only ever given me energy.. I don't ever get good pumps with it. I like controlled labs white flood. Seems to work best for me.
09-19-2011, 05:23 PM
FWIW, "pre-workout" is a pretty diverse/wide category. One could look for pumps, endurance, energy, focus, or any combination. I always enjoyed Jack3d. I like N2KTS a bit more, now (as the 2 are incredibly similar in their ingredient profile), and of course I like a number of other pre-workout products, too. I don't know that I'll be going back to stims or anything with 1,3 dimeth again, though.
To reiterate the answers to the OP's question, though, take the Karbolyn post, as others have suggested.
09-19-2011, 05:44 PM
09-19-2011, 05:51 PM
Take Jack3d if you want to feel cracked out. Not good for pumps but will make you almost "need" to work out.
09-19-2011, 08:05 PM
my body does not respond to jack3d at all. ive even tried 4 scoops before and nothing. i got more energy from eating a cookie lol
09-19-2011, 11:40 PM
If you're looking to add more creatine to the mix, sure why not? Jack3d alone is a great product (in my case anyway), but only contains a small amount of creatine, so if that's what you're after, it should be an ok mix, just make sure you drink a lot of water
09-20-2011, 04:19 AM
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09-26-2011, 11:03 AM
09-26-2011, 12:33 PM
09-26-2011, 03:18 PM
if you want a strong stim, Meso would be good to try. I know if you ask APSFAN, he will send you samples. Other stims i like are Launch and SuperPump.
Something you could do is take Lit Up with 2 caps of RPM. perfect blend IMO.
09-26-2011, 10:25 PM
I don't know if Jack3d started it originally, but the whole small container concentrated preworkout (Jack3d, VPX Anarchy, Six Star Nutrition Ignition, 1MR) all seem like the same stack of ingredients. They work to 'get you going' but a Monster or 5-hour energy will do that. Personally, the other PWOs that focus on pump (AAKG), Muscular needs (BCAAs, Glutamine) and a moderate level of stim (Caffeine) cover a broader spectrum.
Anyone ever see that Gatorade commercial for the G Series, where the first product the athlete is taking is like a squeeze gel pack. The announcer says something like "Fuel for your game, not your nerves". I totally think that's a knock against the stimulant laden ones like Jacke3d.
09-27-2011, 12:22 AM
09-27-2011, 12:23 AM
09-27-2011, 10:41 AM
And I can't find a stupid label anywhere here (of course Gatorade's website is useless in all of this), but I'm pretty sure maltodextrin was listed in there, as well.01 Prime contains a concentrated blend of carbohydrates, B vitamins and electrolytes, delivery energy and helping to sustain your body's ability to burn additional carbohydrates when taken 15 minutes before competition. However you prepare, 01 Prime helps your preparation pay off.
Electrolytes: 110 milligrams of sodium and 35 milligrams of potassium per 8-oz. serving to help maintain hydration so you can make a statement early.
B Vitamins: Good source (10% Daily Value) of B vitamins - Niacin (B3), Pantothenic Acid (B5) and Pyridoxine (B6) - that aid in energy metabolism as part of a daily diet.
Carbohydrates: Kick-start muscles with 25 grams of carbohydrates to start strong without caffeine.
Is it terrible? I guess not. But it sure isn't anything I'd personally market or look at as a "pre-event" drink/product.
It's not all that different from traditional Gatorade but for a higher price tag.
09-27-2011, 11:43 AM
how bout u try somethin new that no one logged or reviewed yet. havent seen much on anabolic ignite and would luv to see a log. creatine nitrate is the ish son
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09-27-2011, 11:51 AM
launch is legit also
09-27-2011, 12:02 PM
agree with the people that say jack3d will get you "Cracked out" but no real pumps or anything. I'm a fan of maximize since it gives me energy and good pumps from the citrulline and agmatine. i use hemavol whenever I'm off stims and get a great pump from it.
and for the karbolyn, definitely post-workout with protein/bcaa's
09-27-2011, 05:54 PM
Do a google search for 'Body Surge' and check the ingredients on that and price. I think it's another Jack3d copy, but it's cheap and 'concentrated'. But if you're going to spend $25 on Jack3d, get the SuperPump Max. Just my opinion on the goods.
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