thread title says it all, if you had to pick one, which would it be?
Love this stuff^Purple Wraath
well, for starters, im not going to pay over 20 bucks for a tub of amino's.
i get lg's bca+eaa for 14 bucks, and the kiwiwatermelon isn't the most delicious stuff, but taste okay.
i fill my shaker to the brim, so w/e it is will be watered down for sure.
but i was looking at those too. im sure the vpx stuff will taste chemically, like their shotgun and synthesize, which were good products but tasted awful.
anyhow, open for 20 and under recomendations. but 55 bucks, no thanks.
also thought about xtend, i know that stuff taste pretty good.
that has a decent price, but never heard of the company.Actually check this out. The ingredient/dosing profile is impressive and leagues ahead of anything else that I've ever used. Musclefeast's Anabolic Competition.
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Is that for real? 6 g of BCAA nitrates? That comes to around 1800mgs for nitrates alone which is down right dangerous:eek1:Actually check this out. The ingredient/dosing profile is impressive and leagues ahead of anything else that I've ever used. Musclefeast's Anabolic Competition.
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I use a ton of their products. They sold bulk creatine nitrate for quite some time. Other reputable posters on this forum can vouch for them. Google musclefeast and check out their products, no frills, just 100% quality.that has a decent price, but never heard of the company.
I've used and never had a problem and check BP regularly, for whatever that's worth.Is that for real? 6 g of BCAA nitrates? That comes to around 1800mgs for nitrates alone which is down right dangerous:eek1:
I find soemthing VERY wrong here then....that would be to large of a dose for mostI've used and never had a problem and check BP regularly, for whatever that's worth.
I hear you, not sure I can speak to your concerns. My friends have been using their nitrate products for months all without issue and they check BP regularly.I find soemthing VERY wrong here then....that would be to large of a dose for most
BP check or no BP check, 90% of the population would get a headache.I hear you, not sure I can speak to your concerns. My friends have been using their nitrate products for months all without issue and they check BP regularly.
Not sure what to tell you, other than 100% of my friends "have yet to suffer through any headaches", or experience any other issues.BP check or no BP check, 90% of the population would get a headache.
sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet, me (im probably the only one with his hand raised, again).Bulk BCAA cheap and tons of servings, who cares about taste.
That alone makes me prefer EAAs!J Nutr. 2006 Jan;136(1 Suppl):234S-6S.
Modulations of muscle protein metabolism by branched-chain amino acids in normal and muscle-atrophying rats.
Kobayashi H, Kato H, Hirabayashi Y, Murakami H, Suzuki H.
Applied Research Department, AminoScience Laboratories, Ajinomoto Co., Kawasaki, Japan. [email protected] om
It has been shown that BCAAs, especially leucine, regulate skeletal muscle protein metabolism. However, it remains unclear how BCAAs regulate muscle protein metabolism and lead to anabolism in vivo. We examined muscle protein synthesis rate and breakdown rate simultaneously during BCAA infusion in muscle atrophy models as well as in normal healthy rats. Corticosterone-treated rats and hindlimb-immobilized rats were used as muscle atrophy models. Muscle protein synthesis rate and breakdown rate were measured as phenylalanine kinetics across the hindlimb. In anesthetized normal rats, BCAAs stimulated muscle protein synthesis despite low insulin concentration and did not suppress muscle protein breakdown. In corticosterone-treated rats, BCAAs failed to restore inhibited muscle protein synthesis, but reduced muscle protein breakdown. Immobilization of hindlimb increased muscle protein breakdown within a day. BCAAs did not change muscle protein metabolism, although essential amino acids (EAAs) suppressed muscle protein breakdown in hindlimb-immobilized rats. We also evaluated changes of fractional synthesis rate (FSR) of skeletal muscle protein during infusion of leucine alone or EAAs for 4 h in anesthetized normal rats. FSR showed a transient increase at 15-30 min of leucine infusion and then declined, whereas FSR stayed elevated throughout EAA infusion. We concluded that
1) BCAAs primarily stimulate muscle protein synthesis in normal rats independently of insulin
2) EAAs are required to maintain the BCAA stimulation of muscle protein synthesis and
3) The effects of BCAAs on muscle protein metabolism differ between atrophy models.
damn, I have been only taking BCAAs....I always go for EAA product, and this is why
That alone makes me prefer EAAs!
They do still work, but that study, and other research I've done, makes me question why COMPLETE protein sources contain EAAs and INCOMPLETE protein sources do not.damn, I have been only taking BCAAs....
The only EAA drink I took was by LG.... that stuff was horrible... tasted like rotten protein powder...They do still work, but that study, and other research I've done, makes me question why COMPLETE protein sources contain EAAs and INCOMPLETE protein sources do not.
Me personally I just don't even want to risk it. Why short-change yourself, when EAA products are roughly the same price.
lol...never tried it. never used much from LG, cept the old PHsThe only EAA drink I took was by LG.... that stuff was horrible... tasted like rotten protein powder...
was free with their ASGT lollol...never tried it. never used much from LG, cept the old PHs
get thru that tub of aminoX, then perhaps check our web site again & you might....might...just be pleasantly suprised...sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet, me (im probably the only one with his hand raised, again).
any how, i looked to see if you guys had some bcaa's, didn't see any.
but, i waited too long, and so, i had to stop by the v shop and grabbed a tub of amino x. watermelon.
taste like a jolly rancher. mixes great with orange gatoraid.
well, i was thinking of ordering purple wrath, but it was 46 bucks at the v shop, and im not paying 10 bucks more to have it now.I always go for EAA product, and this is why
That alone makes me prefer EAAs!
i just finished a tub of their eaa +bcaa, yea, it taste like other intra w/o products, but better than intra aid, and another one i tried.The only EAA drink I took was by LG.... that stuff was horrible... tasted like rotten protein powder...
sounds good bro. :thumbsup:get thru that tub of aminoX, then perhaps check our web site again & you might....might...just be pleasantly suprised...
...as one is in the works... :biggthumpup:
Actually check this out. The ingredient/dosing profile is impressive and leagues ahead of anything else that I've ever used. Musclefeast's Anabolic Competition.
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I've used powershock, in fact I have another tub on my counter. It doesn't compare to Anabolic Competition, just compare labels and look at the dosages. In AI you're getting a full gram of Agmatine, most competing products sprinkle it in. You're also getting more nitrates as well.Between those two I would go with VPX but I personally use this vvvv and it's a really good product and the price is much better
Only problem is that if one eats a meal 1-3 hr pre-wo there will be all the eaa's still in the blood to fuel the full effects of bcaa's. So if your not training fasted a bcaa product is just as good as an eaa product.I always go for EAA product, and this is why
That alone makes me prefer EAAs!
I have agmatine on hand, actually is by MF lol, but I'm too lazy to measure it every time so having in that would be great.I've used powershock, in fact I have another tub on my counter. It doesn't compare to Anabolic Competition, just compare labels and look at the dosages. In AI you're getting a full gram of Agmatine, most competing products sprinkle it in. You're also getting more nitrates as well.
Solid point for sure, something I have read many times.Only problem is that if one eats a meal 1-3 hr pre-wo there will be all the eaa's still in the blood to fuel the full effects of bcaa's. So if your not training fasted a bcaa product is just as good as an eaa product.
Only problem is that if one eats a meal 1-3 hr pre-wo there will be all the eaa's still in the blood to fuel the full effects of bcaa's. So if your not training fasted a bcaa product is just as good as an eaa product.
funny how you started a thread asking about picking specifically from two and people still ignore that and recommend something else!thread title says it all, if you had to pick one, which would it be?
I agree, VPX does have a chemically nasty taste. I didn't like their Power Shock and their Synthesize was even worse, like drinking concentrated Robitesum cough syrup, flavor wise. I did a very comprehensive review on BSN's Amino X on bb. Formula is ok but taste is much better.well, for starters, im not going to pay over 20 bucks for a tub of amino's.
i get lg's bca+eaa for 14 bucks, and the kiwiwatermelon isn't the most delicious stuff, but taste okay.
i fill my shaker to the brim, so w/e it is will be watered down for sure.
but i was looking at those too. im sure the vpx stuff will taste chemically, like their shotgun and synthesize, which were good products but tasted awful.
anyhow, open for 20 and under recomendations. but 55 bucks, no thanks.
also thought about xtend, i know that stuff taste pretty good.
Me! If i'm going to be drinking it all the time, I shouldn't have to gag it down and try to keep from puking. There has been some wonderful advances in flavoring and with the large diversity of products out there now, there's no need to settle for junk IMO.Bulk BCAA cheap and tons of servings, who cares about taste.
I have to agree with you on taste... can completely derail a workout if you are sipping on cow piss.funny how you started a thread asking about picking specifically from two and people still ignore that and recommend something else!
I agree, VPX does have a chemically nasty taste. I didn't like their Power Shock and their Synthesize was even worse, like drinking concentrated Robitesum cough syrup, flavor wise. I did a very comprehensive review on BSN's Amino X on bb. Formula is ok but taste is much better.
Me! If i'm going to be drinking it all the time, I shouldn't have to gag it down and try to keep from puking. There has been some wonderful advances in flavoring and with the large diversity of products out there now, there's no need to settle for junk IMO.
I understand the use for eaa's. The debate will never end. I was just throwing some food for thought out there. I got that knowledge from layne norton myself. The "truth" is always different depending on who you ask lol.This is true, but i see two flaws:1) the food eaten must be a complete source of protein2) the amount of EAAs in said food is potentially lowFor example, theres only 18mg of Histidine per gram of protein in complete food source.Taking an EAA product you would absorb them all at once, in much larger amounts. And we know timing of nutrients around a workout is essential to success. Theres too many variables to factor in for this to be a legit reason to pick BCAAs over EAAs.
I tend to agree with your approach here when bulking.This is true, but i see two flaws:1) the food eaten must be a complete source of protein2) the amount of EAAs in said food is potentially lowFor example, theres only 18mg of Histidine per gram of protein in complete food source.Taking an EAA product you would absorb them all at once, in much larger amounts. And we know timing of nutrients around a workout is essential to success. Theres too many variables to factor in for this to be a legit reason to pick BCAAs over EAAs.
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