Creatine pre or post workout?
- 09-13-2011, 09:33 PM
- 09-13-2011, 09:41 PM
it doesnt matter what time of day you take creatine, it just matters that you get 3-5g a day. its all about saturation, not timing.iForce Nutrition Online Representative Manager
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- 09-14-2011, 01:53 AM
09-14-2011, 01:54 AM
09-14-2011, 02:06 AM
Also depends whether your creatine product is a straight creatine product or has other properties - if it has other properties (i.e. Recomped), or is a product that contains creatine (i.e. preworkout), then dose when recommended re timing.
09-14-2011, 05:20 AM
Also there are creatine products that contain ingredients that aid with preworkout, such as Green MAG we advocate you take it preworkout for this reason.
I'm sure there's others out there too.
Straight creatine though, these guys are right...anytime of the day it will work
09-14-2011, 09:21 AM
09-14-2011, 10:55 AM
09-14-2011, 02:54 PM
I am sure i will get arguments from my following statements.
If dosing creatine my recommendation would be to only use Creapure branded monohydrate. I would also suggest dosing it pre-workout.
Creatine definitely will help with post workout recovery, however, in order to work harder, longer, and stronger, the mitochondria in each cell, can really use the creatine as an extremely efficient source of ATP regeneration, during the workout.
More available ATP, equals vastly improved workouts.
When an ATP molecule, (Adenosine Triphosphate) is depleted into an ADP molecule (Adenosine Diphosphate), it really can't do much of anything.
We want to convert the Di molecule back into a Tri molecule, as quickly and efficiently as possible.
09-14-2011, 09:47 PM
Thanks guys. Also, how do you tell that the creatine has started working? And I'm thinking of taking it for 8 weeks and then 3 weeks off or something like that. thoughts? By the way, is it ok to take if I'm taking DAA and?
09-14-2011, 10:04 PM
09-14-2011, 10:26 PM
Yes, you can use creatine with DAA and Triazole. You can use creatine with pretty much ANYthing - it should be a constant STAPLE in your supplement regime!
09-14-2011, 10:30 PM
I personally insist on taking creatine pre-workout primarily for placebo reasons.
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09-15-2011, 04:42 AM
09-15-2011, 04:43 AM
09-15-2011, 01:13 PM
You will also likely notice your weight goes up some from water retention...also keep in mind to hydrate well (anyone into BB should do this anyhow)
09-15-2011, 03:41 PM
im not a huge creatine fan, but from all the research you can go between 10-15 old research said 10 because your body will just piss out the excess
09-15-2011, 03:45 PM
09-15-2011, 03:46 PM
09-15-2011, 03:47 PM
works best with carbs that are insulin based, such as white sugars and sugar alcohols. Creatine needs the sugar because of the IGF insulin growth factor
09-15-2011, 03:49 PM
thats my own opinion. things work for some people some work better for others. Especially the stuff they sell in stores in chinese based and cheap crap.
09-15-2011, 08:26 PM
09-16-2011, 02:17 AM
09-16-2011, 02:47 AM
well if you do ur own research you'd know your own information, has nothing to do with being a broscientist it's called updating ur brain on important info BRObag
09-16-2011, 07:40 AM
you dont need to take creatine with carbs or any of that nonsense.......you can mix 5g in water and you'll absorb it just fine.
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09-16-2011, 10:24 AM
09-16-2011, 11:21 AM
09-16-2011, 12:21 PM
09-16-2011, 05:35 PM
09-16-2011, 05:38 PM
use it for both. Pre for strength and Post as a Carrier. F*** monohydrate. Ester all the way
Not entirly correct^you dont need to take creatine with carbs or any of that nonsense.......you can mix 5g in water and you'll absorb it just fine.
"Creatine absorbtion is enhanced when combined with a substance such as dextrose that increases insulin. This increased absorbtion can b achieved by taking creatine w grape juice or any ofther beverage high in dextrose. Injesting creatine w a meal will also provide the same effect b/c the increased insulin production. Some studies have shown that exercised muscles will absorb more creatine than non-exercised muscles." Anabolic Primer: Ergogenic Enhancement for the Hardcore Bodybuilder Gerard Thorne pg 356
09-16-2011, 06:01 PM
09-16-2011, 06:08 PM
09-16-2011, 06:10 PM
kind of the same as an ester in the way that the dosing is low, no loading phase, and the pH of the Malate and ester is pretty close to you stomach acid (around 3), so more is absorbded in the small intestines
09-16-2011, 07:04 PM
09-16-2011, 07:18 PM
with the pre i only take 3g. and the post I take about 2g. The reason I do it is just all the studies that have been done on creatine, bc its such an old supplement, Creatine acts as a carrier and help saturate the muscle cells. with that being said when u use creatine, its the first thing to be used up.Why do you think it matters when you are already saturated? O.o
In technical terms: Creatine is initially stored as creatine phosphate, and it can "donate" or give its phosphate group to ADP (adenosine diphosphate: ATP after it loses its phosphate molecule) thus converting it back to ATP which is then available as a fuel source. That fuel source is one of the first to be used up when performing high intensity exercise.(60-90 min) The lactic acid build up wreaks havoc on the saturation levels of creatine in the muscle and this is why I also use Beta Alanine and citruline malate to kill the burn.
I dont use it all the time as a post, except for big groups like legs, back, and chest. Usually I just eat my white rice and Organic beef b/c the red meat is filled with tons of natural creatine.
09-16-2011, 07:22 PM
So you tried to give me a science lesson about things i already know, as ATP usage is elementary, yet didn't really answer my question. The question is: why do you think creatine needs to be taken with sugar when we are already saturated?
09-16-2011, 07:29 PM
09-16-2011, 07:32 PM
LMAO. My bad yo. I Didnt see where u specified the sugar part of the question.So you tried to give me a science lesson about things i already know, as ATP usage is elementary, yet didn't really answer my question. The question is: why do you think creatine needs to be taken with sugar when we are already saturated?
That Quote I posted
is from one of the Best books I have read on CURRENT Supplemental info and was just informing people of new researh. Gerard Thorne Has written I think three previous books and is a very trusted and accredited author."Creatine absorbtion is enhanced when combined with a substance such as dextrose that increases insulin. This increased absorbtion can b achieved by taking creatine w grape juice or any ofther beverage high in dextrose. Injesting creatine w a meal will also provide the same effect b/c the increased insulin production. Some studies have shown that exercised muscles will absorb more creatine than non-exercised muscles." Anabolic Primer: Ergogenic Enhancement for the Hardcore Bodybuilder Gerard Thorne pg 356
09-16-2011, 07:34 PM
09-16-2011, 07:34 PM
Sorry BRO. u should check my sources (Anabolic Primer:Ergogenic Enhancement for the Hardcore Bodybuilder) b4 u get all BROsif on me. If i dont answer in the same second you post something Im to busy eating......sorrythats just it, he cant answer that for you. he just knows what some fitness mags have told him apparently. like i said, BROSCIENTIST in hurrrrr
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