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    Stim and Non Stim stack


    If you could make a stack of each on a tight budget for energy and fat burning, what would you do?
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    Alpha-T2 + Black Cat

    SHIFT + OEP

    Alpha-T2 + TEA-GCG (most mild in the stim department)

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    TEA-GCG + Caffeine
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    Stim:

    EC
    Alphaburn

    Non-stim:

    Reduce XT
    Forskolin
    TTA
    Ultima
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    How does forskolin work? Same
    As forslean in drive etc?
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    Forsalean the same as forskolin?
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    Yes, it's a patented form.
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    Non Stim: HGHup + (add a test booster of your choice)

    Stim: I actually really like yellow thunder
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    Quote Originally Posted by R1balla
    Non Stim: HGHup + (add a test booster of your choice)

    Stim: I actually really like yellow thunder
    Rpm lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69
    Yes, it's a patented form.
    What does it actually do?
    Are there any other ingredients that increase cAMP?
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    Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    What does it actually do?
    Are there any other ingredients that increase cAMP?
    You just said it haha. Many ingredients can elevate cAMP, but I like forskolin for fat loss/mild tboosting/recomp purposes.
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    Dexaprime for its stimulant and metabolic properties, and TTA because it has been proven time and time again to be effective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69

    You just said it haha. Many ingredients can elevate cAMP, but I like forskolin for fat loss/mild tboosting/recomp purposes.
    I thought it did lol
    What ingridients are they?
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    Either way:
    Quality GDA like Slin Sane

    Stim:
    E/C
    MAN Scorch, ErgoBurn, Sub-Q
    AlphaBurn
    HEAT stack

    Non-stim:
    Lean Xtreme
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    DCP
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    Interesting...

    Energy wise without 1,3...
    Looking for vasodilation and "fat burning" to be precise...
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    I heard stims can
    Make you lose muscle....
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    Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    I thought it did lol
    What ingridients are they?
    Some tboosting ingredients, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    Interesting...

    Energy wise without 1,3...
    Looking for vasodilation and "fat burning" to be precise...
    Stims won't make you lose muscle.

    Few stims will cause vasodilation. Just go with a light dose of ephedrine and caffeine if u want.
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    Well they raise your c levels so that could lead to loss of mass right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldx View Post
    I heard stims can
    Make you lose muscle....
    Stims like beta-agonists (ephedrine, higenamine, clen, methyl-synephrine, albuterol, etc) will actually preserve muscle while burning fat

    These are also the likely compounds that will give vasodilation. Most stims will cause vasoconstriction
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post

    Few stims will cause vasodilation. Just go with a light dose of ephedrine and caffeine if u want.
    Yohimbine is one mild stim that has vasodialating properties. I like taking 10 mg for a serving but my wife can only handle smaller doses.
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    So in other words t2 hahahah
    I do like it...placebo or not I still sweat hard when running
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldx View Post
    Well they raise your c levels so that could lead to loss of mass right?
    Transient and insignificant.

    Quote Originally Posted by kingjameskjf View Post
    Yohimbine is one mild stim that has vasodialating properties. I like taking 10 mg for a serving but my wife can only handle smaller doses.
    LOL!

    Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    So in other words t2 hahahah
    I do like it...placebo or not I still sweat hard when running
    Yeah, but he's not pimping, he's right (at least in skeletal muscle). Alpha-t2 is a great product.
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