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Vegetable Greens Supplement

fightbackhxc

fightbackhxc

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Does anyone use one of these?If so which brands? Would like to start taking one or maybe some bulk spirulina/astralgus.
 
fightbackhxc said:
Does anyone use one of these?If so which brands? Would like to start taking one or maybe some bulk spirulina/astralgus.
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Myco greens by MST
Best one I have used to date. Has all the ingredients needed in it. If money is tight and need a bulk supply get a barley and spirulina mix. But like I said, If you can do $20 every few weeks then use MST
 
Miracle Greens
Green Vibrance
Greens Plus

Those above three are very solid, and have good amounts of all the right stuff.

The MycoGreens and Oximega Greens are probably going to be recommended by most people here since they're made by sports supplement companies. I've tried the Oximega, and it tastes like mint, delicious to add to vanilla protein shake for a "Shamrock Shake" type of effect. 2 scoops of Oximega isn't quite as good as 1 scoop of any of the 3 I listed above. If taste is a significant factor over function, try Oximega or Amazing Grass and Greens Plus do naturally flavored ones as well.
 
I am looking to Magnum Neutriceuticals Edge right now. All the greens listed in that are organic which is a huge plus to me when it comes to powders. Milas are any of those you listed organic?
 
Rhadam said:
I'd probably use CL's greens product.
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I use CL's product as a staple . It's very easy to drink tastes just like spearmint, MycoGreens is good too especially if your prefer it capped. I've used BerryGreens and couldn't stomach the taste. bleh
 
monstermash said:
I use CL's product as a staple . It's very easy to drink tastes just like spearmint, MycoGreens is good too especially if your prefer it capped. I've used BerryGreens and couldn't stomach the taste. bleh
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It only has 250mg of Spirulina though. I think I am wanting a product that can provide at least 1000mg.
 
Most green supplements will be all organic and not contain artificial sweetners, etc. The targeted demographic wouldn't stand for anything less!
 
Milas said:
Most green supplements will be all organic and not contain artificial sweetners, etc. The targeted demographic wouldn't stand for anything less!
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Controlled Labs is not all organic. At least that is what a rep told me.
 
That's why I said to try one of the greens that are not from a sports supplement company... ;)
 
Milas said:
That's why I said to try one of the greens that are not from a sports supplement company... ;)
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;) I am picking up what you are putting down.
 
Good stuff in here. I really liked Mycogreens and am going to order again soon.

FWIW Miracle Greens and Greens Plus taste like lawn clippings. Seriously you will feel like a cow drinking this stuff. I ALWAYS had to mix with copious amounts of other stuff to wash it down.
 
seccsi said:
Good stuff in here. I really liked Mycogreens and am going to order again soon.

FWIW Miracle Greens and Greens Plus taste like lawn clippings. Seriously you will feel like a cow drinking this stuff. I ALWAYS had to mix with copious amounts of other stuff to wash it down.
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If it tastes good, spit it out! at least that is what i have heard :D. I am not looking for any products with artificial sweeteners.
 
Curious as to why you want so much Spirulina? I'm not really convinced this is something you want to take mega doses of. Invalid Link Removed
 
Phytoganix, excellent product. Not board sponsor though so I cannot post link.
 
seccsi said:
Curious as to why you want so much Spirulina? I'm not really convinced this is something you want to take mega doses of. Invalid Link Removed
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that journal article was almost written 20 years ago...1 gram of Spirulina is not a megadose.
 
I like megadosing lots of natural things like vitamins and minerals, especially vegetables, fruits and superfoods like spirulina/chlorella. TONS of health benefits for it. I watched another documentary about it just last night! Only 10 deaths in the last 23 years have been attributed to vitamins, and those 10 have not even been substantiated as the real cause. Compare that to the number that die from medicine interactions...
 
fightbackhxc said:
that journal article was almost written 20 years ago...1 gram of Spirulina is not a megadose.
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I'm not really sure what the date of a scientific article has to do with anything. I'm pretty sure they said the world was round hundreds of years ago and that hasn't been questioned because it wasn't recent.

You can find a lot if you search on potential toxicity issues. I'm not trying to say don't use it, more trying to provide you with information on it.

The main issue is you can find a lot on it accumulating heavy metals, but it seems to be dependent on where it is grown. That's why I would look for a company that checks it for contamination.
 
seccsi said:
I'm not really sure what the date of a scientific article has to do with anything. I'm pretty sure they said the world was round hundreds of years ago and that hasn't been questioned because it wasn't recent.

You can find a lot if you search on potential toxicity issues. I'm not trying to say don't use it, more trying to provide you with information on it.

The main issue is you can find a lot on it accumulating heavy metals, but it seems to be dependent on where it is grown. That's why I would look for a company that checks it for contamination.
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I am just saying there has probably been more recent research on Spirulina. We just didn't have the technology we do now back in 1992.
 
fightbackhxc said:
I am just saying there has probably been more recent research on Spirulina. We just didn't have the technology we do now back in 1992.
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Yes but this doesn't really have anything to do with the original point. I was saying if you search you can find a lot of stuff on the potential for toxicity with this. (Actually the data is pretty conflicted on some of it, which is why I said I'd want a company that checks it for contamination) I provided you with a link on it. And you seem to be dismissing it because it was 20 years ago. Science doesn't really change because of a date. What they found in 1992 is still considered good until someone proves otherwise.

Honestly 20 years is nothing when it comes to scientific research. If it was 1892 you may have a point. We weren't exactly living in the stone ages in 92.

Anyways, I'm done with this. Do what you want.
 
So, what's the research on eggs say? Should I eat the yolk or not? :D
 
seccsi said:
Yes but this doesn't really have anything to do with the original point. I was saying if you search you can find a lot of stuff on the potential for toxicity with this. (Actually the data is pretty conflicted on some of it, which is why I said I'd want a company that checks it for contamination) I provided you with a link on it. And you seem to be dismissing it because it was 20 years ago. Science doesn't really change because of a date. What they found in 1992 is still considered good until someone proves otherwise.

Honestly 20 years is nothing when it comes to scientific research. If it was 1892 you may have a point. We weren't exactly living in the stone ages in 92.

Anyways, I'm done with this. Do what you want.
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I am at work and do not have the time to sit and search, but in my opinion an article that is 20 years old, that has data that might even possibly be dated >20years is not as useful as the data we have today. I also wouldn't choose to back up a statement I make with data that old unless it has been proven accurate by recent findings. Not saying it isn't...I just don't have time to look right at the moment and I appreciate you bringing it up
 
Milas said:
So, what's the research on eggs say? Should I eat the yolk or not? :D
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The shell is actually the most nutritious part now. Eat that. How much Spirulina you dosing Milas?
 
1-2g, depending on which greens I'm using
 
Green Vibrance: Invalid Link Removed

Supplement Facts
Serving size: 12 grams Servings per container: 30
Amount per serving
Calories: 45 Calories from fat: 7
Amount per serving % Daily value
Total Fat 0,77 gm. 1,2%
Saturated 0,18 gm. 0,9%
Trans fat 0 gm.
Polyunsaturated 0,44 gm.
Monounsaturated 0,12 gm.
Cholesterol 0 gm. 0%
Sodium 46,7 mg. 1,9%
Potassium 203 mg. 5,8%
Total Carbohydrate 6,9 gm. 2,3%
Dietary fiber 2,82 gm. 11,3%
Sugars 1,54 gm.
Protein 2,63 gm.
Vitamin A (from beta carotene) 4764 i.u. 95,3%
Vitamin C 45,5 mg. 75,8%
Calcium 156 mg. 15,6%
Magnesium 27 mg. 6,8%
Iron 3,74 mg. 20,8%
Vitamin B12 3,51 mcg. 60%
Vitamin K 124 mcg. 154,5%
Nutrient Dense plant concentrates
Spirulina (certified organic) 1 500 mg. *
Wheat grass juice powder (certified organic) 670 mg. *
Alfalfa grass juice powder (certified organic) 570 mg. *
Barley grass juice powder (certified organic) 570 mg. *
Oat grass juice powder (certified organic) 570 mg. *
Hydrilla verticillata (wild crafted, leaf & stem) 500 mg. *
Alfalfa sprout powder (certified organic) 440 mg. *
Kamut® grass juice powder (certified organic) 400 mg. *
Beet juice powder (certified organic) 300 mg. *
Chlorella, soft cell, pharmaceutical grade 300 mg. *
Parsley pdr., freeze dried, (certified organic) 250 mg. *
Zucchini pdr., freeze dried 250 mg. *
Carrot root pdr., (certified organic) 200 mg. *
Green bean powder, freeze dried 120 mg. *
Broccoli sprout powder (certified organic) 100 mg. *
Spinach pdr., freeze dried, (certified organic) 100 mg. *
Sea Vegetable complex (providing Iodine + trace minerals)
Kelp, Laminaria digitata (certified organic) 200 mg. *
Alaria, Alaria esculenta (certified organic) 100 mg. *
Laver, Porphyra umbilicalis (certified organic) 100 mg. *
Rockweed, Ascophyllum nodosum (certified organic) 50 mg. *
Cell membrane & nerve support
Soy lecithin powder (non-GMO) 98% oil-free 750 mg. *
High fiber foods & Prebiotics
Larch arabinogalactan (FiberAid™ AG) 600 mg. *
Fructo-oligosaccharides 600 mg. *
Stabilized Brown rice Bran 500 mg. *
Whole Apple powder (certified organic) 400 mg. *
Milled Flaxseed concentrate (certified organic; de-oiled, non-GMO) 200 mg. *
Antioxidants & Circulatory support
Vitamin E (water dispersible d-alpha-tocopherol succinate) 100 i.u. 333%
Acerola berry juice powder ,25% natural vit. C (certified organic) 200 mg. *
Ginkgo biloba extract, 20 mg. *
(24% ginkgoflavonglycosides/6% terpene lactones)
Green tea standardized extract, ) 20 mg. *
(90% polyphenols, 80% catechins, 45% EGCG
Grape seed standardized extract 20 mg. *
(95% polyphenols, 90% proanthocyanidins)
Pomegranate extract, (40% ellagic acid) 20 mg. *
Policosanol (60% Octacosanol; from rice bran wax) 5 mg. *
Antioxidants & Liver support
Tamarind juice and pulp powder 100 mg. *
Dandelion herb (leaf & stem) powder (certified organic) 50 mg. *
Dandelion root extract 4:1 50 mg. *
Silymarin milk thistle extract, 80% silybin (Silibum marianum) 60 mg. *
Carrot root extract 4:1 50 mg. *
Chicory root powder (certified organic) 25 mg. *
Gentian root extract 4:1 15 mg. *
Adaptogens
Schizandra berry extract, 2% schizandrin 150 mg. *
Eleutherococcus senticosus root extract, 0.8% eleutherosides 80 mg. *
Suma (Pfaffia paniculata) root extract, (2.5% beta-ecdysterone) 60 mg. *
Immune support
Astragalus membranaceus extract, 70% polysaccharides 60 mg. *
Larch arabinogalactan (ImmunEnhancer™ AG) 30 mg. *
Beta 1,3 – 1,6 glucans (yeast) 30 mg. *
Probiotic blend (25 billion total at date of manufacture)
Twelve (12) Dairy-free Probiotic Cultures
Lactobacillus acidophilus HA-122 2,5 billion *
Lactobacillus rhamnosus HA-111 2,5 billion *
Lactobacillus rhamnosus B, HA-114 2,5 billion *
Lactobacillus paracasei HA-108 2,5 billion *
Lactobacillus plantarum HA-119 2,5 billion *
Lactobacillus helveticus HA-128 0,5 billion *
Bifidobacterium breve HA-129 2,5 billion *
Bifidobacterium longum HA-135 2,5 billion *
Bifidobacterium bifidum HA-132 1,25 billion *
Lactococcus lactis HA-136 2,5 billion *
Propioinibacterium shermanii HA-182 2,5 billion *
Streptococcus thermophilus HA-110 0,75 billion *
Enzyme complex
Protease 4.5, (Aspergillus oryzae) 110 HUT *
Protease 6.0, (Aspergillus oryzae) 110 HUT *
Lipase (Aspergillus niger) 150 FCCLU *
Amylase (Aspergillus oryzae) 6 DU *
Invertase (Saccharomyces cerevisiae) 1 SU *
Cellulase (Trichoderma longbrachiatum) 7 CU *
Skeletal support
Vitamin D3 (in organic alfalfa & organic sunflower oil base) 1000 i.u. 250%
Phyto-Boron, (patented, from calcium fructo borate) 3 mg. *
Fortifying Phyto-minerals *
Phyto-Chromium (from Indian mustard, hydroponically grown) 80 mcg. 67%
Phyto-Selenium (from Orgen-SE™ mustard seed ext. (certified organic) 50 mcg. 71,40%
Tonics *
Ginger root powder (certified organic) 20 mg. *
Cayenne pepper powder (Capsicum fr.) (certified organic) 2 mg. *
Palatability factor
Concord grape juice, freeze dried, Kosher (certifed organic) 210 mg. *
*Daily value not established
 
Milas said:
Green Vibrance: Invalid Link Removed

Supplement Facts
Serving size: 12 grams Servings per container: 30
Amount per serving
Calories: 45 Calories from fat: 7
Amount per serving % Daily value
Total Fat 0,77 gm. 1,2%
Saturated 0,18 gm. 0,9%
Trans fat 0 gm.
Polyunsaturated 0,44 gm.
Monounsaturated 0,12 gm.
Cholesterol 0 gm. 0%
Sodium 46,7 mg. 1,9%
Potassium 203 mg. 5,8%
Total Carbohydrate 6,9 gm. 2,3%
Dietary fiber 2,82 gm. 11,3%
Sugars 1,54 gm.
Protein 2,63 gm.
Vitamin A (from beta carotene) 4764 i.u. 95,3%
Vitamin C 45,5 mg. 75,8%
Calcium 156 mg. 15,6%
Magnesium 27 mg. 6,8%
Iron 3,74 mg. 20,8%
Vitamin B12 3,51 mcg. 60%
Vitamin K 124 mcg. 154,5%
Nutrient Dense plant concentrates
Spirulina (certified organic) 1 500 mg. *
Wheat grass juice powder (certified organic) 670 mg. *
Alfalfa grass juice powder (certified organic) 570 mg. *
Barley grass juice powder (certified organic) 570 mg. *
Oat grass juice powder (certified organic) 570 mg. *
Hydrilla verticillata (wild crafted, leaf & stem) 500 mg. *
Alfalfa sprout powder (certified organic) 440 mg. *
Kamut® grass juice powder (certified organic) 400 mg. *
Beet juice powder (certified organic) 300 mg. *
Chlorella, soft cell, pharmaceutical grade 300 mg. *
Parsley pdr., freeze dried, (certified organic) 250 mg. *
Zucchini pdr., freeze dried 250 mg. *
Carrot root pdr., (certified organic) 200 mg. *
Green bean powder, freeze dried 120 mg. *
Broccoli sprout powder (certified organic) 100 mg. *
Spinach pdr., freeze dried, (certified organic) 100 mg. *
Sea Vegetable complex (providing Iodine + trace minerals)
Kelp, Laminaria digitata (certified organic) 200 mg. *
Alaria, Alaria esculenta (certified organic) 100 mg. *
Laver, Porphyra umbilicalis (certified organic) 100 mg. *
Rockweed, Ascophyllum nodosum (certified organic) 50 mg. *
Cell membrane & nerve support
Soy lecithin powder (non-GMO) 98% oil-free 750 mg. *
High fiber foods & Prebiotics
Larch arabinogalactan (FiberAid™ AG) 600 mg. *
Fructo-oligosaccharides 600 mg. *
Stabilized Brown rice Bran 500 mg. *
Whole Apple powder (certified organic) 400 mg. *
Milled Flaxseed concentrate (certified organic; de-oiled, non-GMO) 200 mg. *
Antioxidants & Circulatory support
Vitamin E (water dispersible d-alpha-tocopherol succinate) 100 i.u. 333%
Acerola berry juice powder ,25% natural vit. C (certified organic) 200 mg. *
Ginkgo biloba extract, 20 mg. *
(24% ginkgoflavonglycosides/6% terpene lactones)
Green tea standardized extract, ) 20 mg. *
(90% polyphenols, 80% catechins, 45% EGCG
Grape seed standardized extract 20 mg. *
(95% polyphenols, 90% proanthocyanidins)
Pomegranate extract, (40% ellagic acid) 20 mg. *
Policosanol (60% Octacosanol; from rice bran wax) 5 mg. *
Antioxidants & Liver support
Tamarind juice and pulp powder 100 mg. *
Dandelion herb (leaf & stem) powder (certified organic) 50 mg. *
Dandelion root extract 4:1 50 mg. *
Silymarin milk thistle extract, 80% silybin (Silibum marianum) 60 mg. *
Carrot root extract 4:1 50 mg. *
Chicory root powder (certified organic) 25 mg. *
Gentian root extract 4:1 15 mg. *
Adaptogens
Schizandra berry extract, 2% schizandrin 150 mg. *
Eleutherococcus senticosus root extract, 0.8% eleutherosides 80 mg. *
Suma (Pfaffia paniculata) root extract, (2.5% beta-ecdysterone) 60 mg. *
Immune support
Astragalus membranaceus extract, 70% polysaccharides 60 mg. *
Larch arabinogalactan (ImmunEnhancer™ AG) 30 mg. *
Beta 1,3 – 1,6 glucans (yeast) 30 mg. *
Probiotic blend (25 billion total at date of manufacture)
Twelve (12) Dairy-free Probiotic Cultures
Lactobacillus acidophilus HA-122 2,5 billion *
Lactobacillus rhamnosus HA-111 2,5 billion *
Lactobacillus rhamnosus B, HA-114 2,5 billion *
Lactobacillus paracasei HA-108 2,5 billion *
Lactobacillus plantarum HA-119 2,5 billion *
Lactobacillus helveticus HA-128 0,5 billion *
Bifidobacterium breve HA-129 2,5 billion *
Bifidobacterium longum HA-135 2,5 billion *
Bifidobacterium bifidum HA-132 1,25 billion *
Lactococcus lactis HA-136 2,5 billion *
Propioinibacterium shermanii HA-182 2,5 billion *
Streptococcus thermophilus HA-110 0,75 billion *
Enzyme complex
Protease 4.5, (Aspergillus oryzae) 110 HUT *
Protease 6.0, (Aspergillus oryzae) 110 HUT *
Lipase (Aspergillus niger) 150 FCCLU *
Amylase (Aspergillus oryzae) 6 DU *
Invertase (Saccharomyces cerevisiae) 1 SU *
Cellulase (Trichoderma longbrachiatum) 7 CU *
Skeletal support
Vitamin D3 (in organic alfalfa & organic sunflower oil base) 1000 i.u. 250%
Phyto-Boron, (patented, from calcium fructo borate) 3 mg. *
Fortifying Phyto-minerals *
Phyto-Chromium (from Indian mustard, hydroponically grown) 80 mcg. 67%
Phyto-Selenium (from Orgen-SE™ mustard seed ext. (certified organic) 50 mcg. 71,40%
Tonics *
Ginger root powder (certified organic) 20 mg. *
Cayenne pepper powder (Capsicum fr.) (certified organic) 2 mg. *
Palatability factor
Concord grape juice, freeze dried, Kosher (certifed organic) 210 mg. *
*Daily value not established
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Really like everything but the price tag hahah
 
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The Dr. on SuperHumanRadio says that an effective dose of Spirulina COULD be around 15-30 grams or a couple rounded tablespoons. I also found this but havent had the time to read it.

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fightbackhxc said:
I am at work and do not have the time to sit and search, but in my opinion an article that is 20 years old, that has data that might even possibly be dated >20years is not as useful as the data we have today. I also wouldn't choose to back up a statement I make with data that old unless it has been proven accurate by recent findings. Not saying it isn't...I just don't have time to look right at the moment and I appreciate you bringing it up
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That was sorta my point though, it is what we should take until something proves otherwise. We use "old" data all the time. A study that proved something in 1970 is correct until a study says otherwise. That's how science works. I see what you're saying, but basically it's up to current studies to prove old studies false. In other words if I show something in 1980 scientifically it is "correct" until someone shows different.

Anyways, it's a moot point as that was just the first thing I found when looking at toxicity, I didn't even check the date. It has been a while since I researched Spirulina, but I remembered off the top of my head that toxicity issues was my number one concern. I'm sure it's fine, I was just pointing that out.
 
fightbackhxc said:
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The Dr. on SuperHumanRadio says that an effective dose of Spirulina COULD be around 15-30 grams or a couple rounded tablespoons. I also found this but havent had the time to read it.

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As I mentioned the data is conflicting. Personally I would not high dose Spirulina for a variety of reasons, but I don't have your body :)

Best of luck.
 
seccsi said:
As I mentioned the data is conflicting. Personally I would not high dose Spirulina for a variety of reasons, but I don't have your body :)

Best of luck.
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Well hopefully with a good source and taking things such as selenium with it, you could offset any possible minor contaminations of heavy metals.
 
fightbackhxc said:
Well hopefully with a good source and taking things such as selenium with it, you could offset any possible minor contaminations of heavy metals.
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Who knows? As I said the data is pretty conflicting. I also think it's positive aspects are not fully backed up by science, but I don't know what you're expecting from it. I was initially looking at it for fat loss, but I thought the science on it was pretty shaky.

Anyways like I said it has been a while since I really looked into it.
 
seccsi said:
Who knows? As I said the data is pretty conflicting. I also think it's positive aspects are not fully backed up by science, but I don't know what you're expecting from it. I was initially looking at it for fat loss, but I thought the science on it was pretty shaky.

Anyways like I said it has been a while since I really looked into it.
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You should really listen to that radio show man, its great and you could doit while running or working or whatever. The data is pretty skewed since its mostly been done in rodents but from the sounds of it, it could be promising and have numerous health benefits.
 
Will give it a listen.
 
another great article from the Dr who spoke on SHR. Invalid Link Removed
 
Almost sounds like something that would be good while on cycle, helps billreubin levels and may have a positive effect on lowering LDL cholesterol.
 
If pressed with what to use, get organic veggies and juice em yourself. Fresh and you know what your getting but yeah. I'm hard pressed for time so mycogreens is my go to
 
Bnatural said:
this dood has smarts!
good choice
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Doesn't really have the amount of spirulina I am looking for. I think I am just going to buy bulk spirulina. Found a cheap enough source for it thanks to a buddy.
 
I forgot to mention the greens I had recommended have samples you can order from their respective home websites. Pretty reasonable price for a sample of their product lines (free shipping too), and you get to see if you can tolerate the grass clippings or not. Also, do a quick google on coupon codes for the sites and some of the samples come out free!
 
Milas said:
I forgot to mention the greens I had recommended have samples you can order from their respective home websites. Pretty reasonable price for a sample of their product lines (free shipping too), and you get to see if you can tolerate the grass clippings or not. Also, do a quick google on coupon codes for the sites and some of the samples come out free!
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thanks bud, you have been very helpful
 
Milas said:
I just like my greens! Going to keep using them for life!
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Same here, really wanting them for overall health and to activate different cascasdes of enzymes necessary for aging health.
 
Also, the vast majority of the fruits and veggies in Oximega ARE organic (there are a few minor ones that are not, which is why we don't claim it's "100% organic") They are also sourced from the USA.

Ive tried alot of greens products, Oximega is the best tasting one Ive found so far. It's hard to make a greens product taste decent!
 
A good mixture also has digestion ezymes and stress reducers. Have not tried oximega. Enjoy
 
runner_79 said:
A good mixture also has digestion ezymes and stress reducers. Have not tried oximega. Enjoy
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Yeah those would be extra goodies, I am mainly just wanting to get my greens in so I can activate the cascades of enzymes that occur when taking in greens like spirulina and such. Spirulina has really caught my interest as a natural health supplement.
 
RenegadeRows said:
Also, the vast majority of the fruits and veggies in Oximega ARE organic (there are a few minor ones that are not, which is why we don't claim it's "100% organic") They are also sourced from the USA.

Ive tried alot of greens products, Oximega is the best tasting one Ive found so far. It's hard to make a greens product taste decent!
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I agree Oximega Greens taste great, especially mixed with vanilla protein (Myofusion). Nice and light flavor with a good minty taste. Probably good for most recreational greens users, but for more hardcore nutrients I'd give the edge to Miracle Greens or Green Vibrance, but you have to like grass clippings! :lol:
 
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