M.T.s Neurocore has 10x the dose of 1,3Dimethyl

[Jasen]

Had anyone seen this, its crazy almost 600mg isn't 60mg the to dose recommended?

 

[MakaveliThaDon]

do you have a pic of the label? Maybe the labeling is wording it differently and listing a percentage of the actual extract afterwards. for instance 600mg of xxxx standardized to 10% of 1,3dimethyl. That would equal 60mg.

Of course labeling it the previous way makes it look ridiculously powerful

 

[thebigt]

remember, there is nothing that says they have to be truthful on the label....it all depends on how much you trust muscletech....


dat der cell tech, lol.

 

[Jasen]

Another question is could I take this during morning cardio with OEP and then.again later P.W. With jacked? I was thinking 2pills a day. One pill is 340mg extract ( 10.2mg rosavins). It is only thing missing in jacked so I manually wanted to add this.I

 

[carpee]

Another question is could I take this during morning cardio with OEP and then.again later P.W. With jacked? I was thinking 2pills a day. One pill is 340mg extract ( 10.2mg rosavins). It is only thing missing in jacked so I manually wanted to add this.I

I wouldn't add any extra 1,3 dimeth to OEP or jacked


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[BaDgErFaN]

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[Jasen]

Ohhhh I.meat to say can I add rhodiola! Lmfao!!Can I add rhodiola extract two operate doses.

 

[Jasen]

One to my morning dose of oep the other to my afternoon dose of jacked

 

[mr.cooper69]

You guys realize their extract is geranium robertianum and not geranium oil/1,3 dimethylamylamine, correct?

 

[kingdong]

So dose their geranium do anything?

 

[thebigt]

You guys realize their extract is geranium robertianum and not geranium oil/1,3 dimethylamylamine, correct?

lol-good old muscletech...

 

[oli]

def. not into high caffeine products

 

[mr.cooper69]

Hmmm, the originial Hydroxystim also listed geranium robertanium as one of its ingredients and according to this analysis it did contain DMAA:
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Also WTF at the DMAA dose in Jack3d and Flashover (which is mislabeled according to this analysis)

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I guess MT dropped the DMAA in later geranium robertanium formulations, because it felt nothing like other DMAA containing supplements.

Wow, that chart alone is loaded with inaccuracies. Aside from what you mentioned, I don't think Muscletech has ever stated that Geranium robertianum is 100% DMAA, which would throw off the "stated DMAA per serving." Just how much can we trust this source if the authors appear to be poorly versed and negligent with respect to the data?

 

[mr.cooper69]

What's innacurate about that chart?

Regarding the Hydroxystim DMAA claims, I think there are two possibilities:

1. The authors 'misinterpreted' Hydroxystim's label.
2. In the authors' defense, they also found that DMAA used in these supplements is 1. from synthetic origin and 2. DMAA is not naturally occuring in commercially available geranium oil/extracts (although they didn't test geranium robertanium to my knowledge). These findings directly imply it's impossible for any supplement company to claim they use a natural DMAA source (4 companies in this chart claim they did use a natural DMAA source). Still, many companies mislabel(ed) synthetic DMAA as geranium oil/stem/extract.

Whatever it is, I don't believe it alters the main conclusions of this paper.

It does make me wonder why the acute USPLabs DMAA safety study* only used up to 75 mg DMAA, while this analysis shows that Jack3d contains 142 mg DMAA per serving. Unless they changed the formula or this analysis is a fraud this is a very misleading move.

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The chart lists incorrect doses of DMAA for jack3d and flashover. Further, flashover's label is non-proprietary and it does not state "20mg" DMAA per serving.