Ultimate Sexual Weekend Stack?!?!?
- 07-12-2012, 04:35 AM
well give it a decent shot, 6 days may not be enough, I know goji can take a week for most before saturation top up occurs. Id be tempted to go 2 weeks before making a decision
I did a month of Ginseng (korean) week one was good then week 3-4 just went down hill and became lethargic, so i know now its short term (and not really worth it). Ginseng and Ginko seem to kill libido, maybe the blood is going to my brain and not somewhere else! same thing with l-arganine oddly. different bodies different affects.. .coffee sends me to sleep yet red bull wakes me up!
Yohimbe is down right dangerous, and nothing from horny goat weed either.
Cant fault Goji, every day is a goji day
I'll let you know on the butea, will buy some in day or two, but i fear it will have sides like Yohimbe and yohimbine or as its 'red' or 'Yin' it will be like ginseng, good for a week but not every day.
- 07-12-2012, 05:20 AM
- 07-12-2012, 06:01 AM
07-14-2012, 08:06 AM
I pulled the plug and ordered Goji myself and I'm expecting to get it in next 5-10 days and then I start testing it myself.
In next 2-3 weeks that I test Goji you will probably test Butea so I'm looking forward hearing how Butea will work on you and how it compares vs Goji.
07-14-2012, 08:21 AM
Which goji product you guys using?
07-14-2012, 08:27 AM
07-14-2012, 09:48 AM
07-14-2012, 10:59 AM
07-14-2012, 12:31 PM
Goji berry extract (4:1)
This one actually looks better since it's stronger and doesn't contain Magnesium Stearate (that has a negative effect on hormonal balance since most are used from animal sources and weird almost every testosterone booster has this as a glue so all substances mix nicely in a capsule).
But reading latest review is from 2008 and maybe their Goji berry source they use is not of same quality.
Only one way to find out is to buy it and try it.
I always go for personal feedback from one of the members on this forum over just picking what ever company I can get my hands on.
07-14-2012, 03:29 PM
I just bought some LBP-40 goji caps from dragon herbs. 40% standardized polysaccharides so we will see. Certified from Heaven mountain which I guess is top of the line goji.
I tried Butea Superba once, had no effect on me. Was a 4:1 extract.
07-14-2012, 03:35 PM
Depends on how much you use. And too much is no good.Originally Posted by broons
Bureau is hit or miss
I'm working on a test booster now. Looking into a bunch of possibilities.
Found some cool stuff.
Also found a plethora of alpha 2 antagonists that can work well with alpha y to increase erection and testosterone.
May do a 200 cap bottle for this one because it will be amazing
07-14-2012, 04:13 PM
07-15-2012, 02:48 AM
07-15-2012, 02:53 AM
Alpha 2 antagonists can cause weak orgasms so I'd rethink about adding this.
Don't put in DAA cause me and many others get diarrhea so I won't be buying any test booster containing DAA.
DAA can also cause increase in prolactin and estrogen so really don't put it in.
Also DAA is now patented substance and you can risk potential lawsuit or paying royalty fee for adding DAA in your product - just not worth the hassle.
Also I'm not into putting in an AI cause you never know how much each person needs so put in too much and libido goes down.
Better make a solid test booster and let people decide to stack it or not with DAA and their choice of AI.
If I'd make my own test booster I'd make it simple and not add stuff like zinc or vit D since this you already get from food or sun exposure and in many multivitamin pills.
Less is better and I'd try to have less or max 5 ingredients inside but to hit more pathways.
My current choice would be:
07-15-2012, 11:00 AM
Thanx for that feedbackOriginally Posted by ahh123
It'll mainly be a photo androgen product. One ingredient acts as a GDA an has some ursoluc acid and may help with cortisol
Looking into 7,8 as I find it pretty awesome. As for the l dopa. I have it on natty v. This would be stackable for the ultimate experience
07-16-2012, 03:28 AM
doctors best seem to be a good brand. I bought some ACAI from them a while back, opened up a cap (as i like to do, to see whats inside) and the quality of the acai seemed really good (it was also a freeze dried high nutrient process) I wouldn't doubt their quality going forward.
Id be interested to try them but at Simply supplements Goji is 360 for £18.99, £7.99 for 120 (almost half the price of doctors best) and Im scared to move brands if its not as good
I notice Holland and Barret have started selling the juice in store, if anyone's interested, wasnt cheap though.
07-16-2012, 04:03 AM
07-16-2012, 04:29 AM
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07-16-2012, 07:28 AM
07-16-2012, 10:28 AM
One comment.. I dont know if this is the ongoing goji, or the week 5 of ISA-Test, but the missus asked me at the weekend "Has your penis got bigger... like from more use or something" (she doesnt know about test boost or goi effects) lol I had noticed everything felt a bit 'bigger' down there, balls and bag especially
It just all feels 'heavier' down there.
07-21-2012, 01:31 PM
Mechanism of this makes sense since alpha-1 antagonist prevents contraction of smooth muscles in penis (so blood can come in) and alpha-2 antagonist help in production of NO (which cause vasodilation) and work on increased production of certain substances in brain that also increase libido like dopamine.
A weak alpha-1 and alpha-2 antagonist is Phentolamine that is being used to cure performance anxiety and is being used in combo with PDE5 inhibitors like Viagra or Cialis.
07-21-2012, 06:12 PM
Do people become dependant on cialis? Im curious to try it out but am worried i'll need to consistently take it in order to achieve an erection. Also has anyone else seen any Goji benefits so far
07-21-2012, 08:25 PM
Interestingly enough, my Urologist told me Cialis actually inhibits estrogen. Go figure....Originally Posted by Z28Luver7777
07-22-2012, 01:29 AM
I just checked PubMed and I found this one study here: "Testosterone:estradiol ratio changes associated with long-term tadalafil administration: a pilot study"
It was supposed to be a pilot study and it is from 2006. So far, there haven't been any follow-up studies. Strangely enough, the estrogen decrease only occurred in lean subjects even though obese subjects generally have more estrogen. If there actually is a mechanism by which tadalafil exerts anti-aromatase activity, I wonder why it should only have an effect in lean subjects. I am not sure if I really trust this especially considering the low number of subjects they analyzed. Could be a subject-selection bias.
07-24-2012, 01:27 AM
I wouldn't call this a definite stack, but right after workouts I supplement my diet by...
1 teaspoon of sesame seeds
1/4 cup olives
2 cloves of garlic (roasted, but raw works fine too)
~5 large loads every 2 days
~oddly enough also induces slight insomnia (4 hour sleep dent)
07-27-2012, 02:56 AM
Been taking 3g of 40% polysaccharide Goji for 2 weeks. So far no perceptible change in anything. Im sure it is quite healthy though
07-27-2012, 04:00 AM
I'm still waiting now to get my Goji 4:1 from simplesupplements that should come already 1 week ago but weird with this shipping stuff and they said it need to pass 4 weeks before they can start investigation with shipping company what happened.
Maybe will buy from another UK company that has Doctor's Best Goji 4:1 at 600mg caps and no Magnesium Stearate inside.
Taking now Tongkat Ali 200:1 at 300mg caps 2x daily for 9 days and feeling nice boost.
07-27-2012, 04:05 AM
07-27-2012, 04:17 AM
No, didn't know that for simplesupplements and I ordered already July 13th but yeah they said shipping times prolonged to 15 business days which is 3 weeks.
Custom checking is why I buy supplements from UK and not US so this Guernsey location really sucks since now shipping time is same as ordering from US to get to my EU country.
I mean i paid for shipping more than for 120caps of Goji and not even got a tracking link.
07-27-2012, 06:14 AM
07-27-2012, 06:39 AM
07-27-2012, 12:43 PM
07-27-2012, 01:39 PM
07-27-2012, 02:05 PM
07-27-2012, 02:40 PM
Do you guys take your goji berry 4 caps a day or just one? Any noticeable difference?
07-27-2012, 04:37 PM
07-29-2012, 06:58 AM
Would you say the Goji extract provides more benefits in the erection quality or in the libido department? Because what I could mainly use is something that gets me horny and excited more easily. I am actually at the opposite end of what they call premature ejaculation.
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