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    well give it a decent shot, 6 days may not be enough, I know goji can take a week for most before saturation top up occurs. Id be tempted to go 2 weeks before making a decision

    I did a month of Ginseng (korean) week one was good then week 3-4 just went down hill and became lethargic, so i know now its short term (and not really worth it). Ginseng and Ginko seem to kill libido, maybe the blood is going to my brain and not somewhere else! same thing with l-arganine oddly. different bodies different affects.. .coffee sends me to sleep yet red bull wakes me up!

    Yohimbe is down right dangerous, and nothing from horny goat weed either.

    Cant fault Goji, every day is a goji day

    I'll let you know on the butea, will buy some in day or two, but i fear it will have sides like Yohimbe and yohimbine or as its 'red' or 'Yin' it will be like ginseng, good for a week but not every day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RogerBob View Post
    I'll take the pepsi challenge, will report back

    On paper, Goji wins due to the benefits outside of the discussion here, and high doses of butea cuase drops in testosterone and blood alterations. In mild form maybe its not noticable, but no-one wants more E.

    Wiling to try it though, goji is my staple, for months, so i can compare it

    For the guy with the donkey dick, it may not be ideal, as Ive had complaints of me being TOO hard sometimes :/ Maybe a selection of lubes maybe a better option!

    Ifyou're on AAS
    , who knows what could be affected, and could be the route cause of the problem, hormones bouncing up and down, but that's your call. On the subject of bouncing up and down, the doc sounds useful but a defo wife threat!
    donkey dick-how i envy those guys!!!!!!

    AAS-i think this may be why i fluctuate so much , im on trt and my e levels must be all over the place
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    What brand of goji do you recommend?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RogerBob View Post
    Cant fault Goji, every day is a goji day

    I'll let you know on the butea, will buy some in day or two, but i fear it will have sides like Yohimbe and yohimbine or as its 'red' or 'Yin' it will be like ginseng, good for a week but not every day.
    Well you got me all excited with your Goji experience so I did some research and it looks like a great natural alternative to multivitamins with emphasis on providing eye, liver and kidney health.

    I pulled the plug and ordered Goji myself and I'm expecting to get it in next 5-10 days and then I start testing it myself.

    In next 2-3 weeks that I test Goji you will probably test Butea so I'm looking forward hearing how Butea will work on you and how it compares vs Goji.
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    Which goji product you guys using?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dallasboy22 View Post
    Which goji product you guys using?
    I would like to know this and where can we get this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dallasboy22 View Post
    Which goji product you guys using?
    it was written few pages ago - simply supplements which is an Uk merchant.

    but I guess any merchant will do that has 4:1 extract at 500 mg per cap.
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    Here is 600mg, just don't know if it is 4:1.

    http://www.iherb.com/m/Doctor-s-Best...Caps/4935?at=0
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    Quote Originally Posted by dallasboy22 View Post
    Here is 600mg, just don't know if it is 4:1.

    http://www.iherb.com/m/Doctor-s-Best...Caps/4935?at=0
    Don't know if you have problem with your vision but it says clearly on this link under Supplement Facts
    Goji berry extract (4:1)

    This one actually looks better since it's stronger and doesn't contain Magnesium Stearate (that has a negative effect on hormonal balance since most are used from animal sources and weird almost every testosterone booster has this as a glue so all substances mix nicely in a capsule).

    But reading latest review is from 2008 and maybe their Goji berry source they use is not of same quality.

    Only one way to find out is to buy it and try it.

    I always go for personal feedback from one of the members on this forum over just picking what ever company I can get my hands on.
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    I just bought some LBP-40 goji caps from dragon herbs. 40% standardized polysaccharides so we will see. Certified from Heaven mountain which I guess is top of the line goji.

    I tried Butea Superba once, had no effect on me. Was a 4:1 extract.
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    Quote Originally Posted by broons
    I just bought some LBP-40 goji caps from dragon herbs. 40% standardized polysaccharides so we will see. Certified from Heaven mountain which I guess is top of the line goji.

    I tried Butea Superba once, had no effect on me. Was a 4:1 extract.
    Depends on how much you use. And too much is no good.

    Bureau is hit or miss

    I'm working on a test booster now. Looking into a bunch of possibilities.

    Found some cool stuff.

    Also found a plethora of alpha 2 antagonists that can work well with alpha y to increase erection and testosterone.

    Pretty awesome.

    May do a 200 cap bottle for this one because it will be amazing
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    Depends on how much you use. And too much is no good.

    Bureau is hit or miss

    I'm working on a test booster now. Looking into a bunch of possibilities.

    Found some cool stuff.

    Also found a plethora of alpha 2 antagonists that can work well with alpha y to increase erection and testosterone.

    Pretty awesome.

    May do a 200 cap bottle for this one because it will be amazing
    Make it happen!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruiser76 View Post
    Check this out. I decided to talk to my doctor today about getting Cabergoline to see if I can get it covered by insurance (since I'm "technically" on TRT). Here's the full story in case you've missed anything.

    The reason I want the caber is for staying power. I'm what I would call gifted and cursed. Quite frankly, I'm hung. The problem is that my wife is unnaturally tight. To the point where she had to have both kids by C-section. So it's a battle of physics and friction I can't win! It's like trying to screw a pair of vicegrips. Lol.

    So how to approach the subject with my ungodly hot female doctor who enjoys flirting as much as I do... First she had to recheck a hernia we were concerned about. Which of course was fun! So after I explain the issue (big c**k/tight p***y). She says "I can see that". Wow. So I say how it's a curse. She laughed and actually said "oh you're SOOO cursed! Must be rough. Your looks, beard, muscles, personality and THAT" pointing at my junk. I busted out laughing.

    So I suggested Cabergoline and say how since I've been on Androgel (at least that's what I'm prescribed... Shhhh) I've never had my estrogen or prolactin levels checked. So she says yes on the Caber, but just wants to check hormone levels first. Uh oh. So I come clean on my AAS use, and she scolds me a little and we talk about it. She said she'll be happy to work with me as long as I get in to see her weekly. Cool! So I got more labs done and she wrote me a RX for something my acne and for my horrendous sweating. I'll get my Cabergoline later this week then.

    All in all, a damn good visit. Oh, and she invited me over for coffee next week. I think she wants to help me test out the caber! Lol

    Let us know how the caber works out for you
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    Depends on how much you use. And too much is no good.

    I'm working on a test booster now. Looking into a bunch of possibilities.

    Found some cool stuff.

    Also found a plethora of alpha 2 antagonists that can work well with alpha y to increase erection and testosterone.
    Do try to hit more pathways like increased total testosterone (fadogia) and free testosterone (divanil), reducing prolactin (L-DOPA) and maybe mix it with mild anxiolitic (7,8-Benzoflavone) since many cases of performance anxiety.

    Alpha 2 antagonists can cause weak orgasms so I'd rethink about adding this.

    Don't put in DAA cause me and many others get diarrhea so I won't be buying any test booster containing DAA.
    DAA can also cause increase in prolactin and estrogen so really don't put it in.
    Also DAA is now patented substance and you can risk potential lawsuit or paying royalty fee for adding DAA in your product - just not worth the hassle.

    Also I'm not into putting in an AI cause you never know how much each person needs so put in too much and libido goes down.

    Better make a solid test booster and let people decide to stack it or not with DAA and their choice of AI.

    If I'd make my own test booster I'd make it simple and not add stuff like zinc or vit D since this you already get from food or sun exposure and in many multivitamin pills.

    Less is better and I'd try to have less or max 5 ingredients inside but to hit more pathways.

    My current choice would be:
    * fadogia,
    * divanil,
    * L-DOPA,
    * 7,8-Benzoflavone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahh123

    Do try to hit more pathways like increased total testosterone (fadogia) and free testosterone (divanil), reducing prolactin (L-DOPA) and maybe mix it with mild anxiolitic (7,8-Benzoflavone) since many cases of performance anxiety.

    Alpha 2 antagonists can cause weak orgasms so I'd rethink about adding this.

    Don't put in DAA cause me and many others get diarrhea so I won't be buying any test booster containing DAA.
    DAA can also cause increase in prolactin and estrogen so really don't put it in.
    Also DAA is now patented substance and you can risk potential lawsuit or paying royalty fee for adding DAA in your product - just not worth the hassle.

    Also I'm not into putting in an AI cause you never know how much each person needs so put in too much and libido goes down.

    Better make a solid test booster and let people decide to stack it or not with DAA and their choice of AI.

    If I'd make my own test booster I'd make it simple and not add stuff like zinc or vit D since this you already get from food or sun exposure and in many multivitamin pills.

    Less is better and I'd try to have less or max 5 ingredients inside but to hit more pathways.

    My current choice would be:
    * fadogia,
    * divanil,
    * L-DOPA,
    * 7,8-Benzoflavone.
    Thanx for that feedback

    It'll mainly be a photo androgen product. One ingredient acts as a GDA an has some ursoluc acid and may help with cortisol

    Looking into 7,8 as I find it pretty awesome. As for the l dopa. I have it on natty v. This would be stackable for the ultimate experience
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    doctors best seem to be a good brand. I bought some ACAI from them a while back, opened up a cap (as i like to do, to see whats inside) and the quality of the acai seemed really good (it was also a freeze dried high nutrient process) I wouldn't doubt their quality going forward.

    Id be interested to try them but at Simply supplements Goji is 360 for 18.99, 7.99 for 120 (almost half the price of doctors best) and Im scared to move brands if its not as good

    I notice Holland and Barret have started selling the juice in store, if anyone's interested, wasnt cheap though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RogerBob View Post
    doctors best seem to be a good brand. I bought some ACAI from them a while back, opened up a cap (as i like to do, to see whats inside) and the quality of the acai seemed really good (it was also a freeze dried high nutrient process)
    Acai did nothing for me, and it was expensive (doctors best usually is in the UK, unless on offer) but I wouldn't doubt their quality going forward.

    Id be interested to try them but at Simply supplements its 360 for 18.99, 7.99 for 120 (almost half the price of doctors best) and Im scared to move brands if its not as good

    I notice Holland and Barret have started selling the juice in store, if anyone's interested, wasnt cheap though.
    sorry but i missed something here -ACAI wheres that fit in to all this ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by corsaking View Post
    sorry but i missed something here -ACAI wheres that fit in to all this ?
    It doesnt really dude, just going on 'Doctors choice' product, with regard to quality, the only thing ive bought form them before was ACAI - completely unrelated to this threads growing list of suggested supplements. ACAI was for slimming/detox benefit, but I saw no changes, but the contents of the capsules was very hig quality and tasted just like berries (not dust!) - so expect the Goji to be the same (should be dark red - stains!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by RogerBob View Post
    It doesnt really dude, just going on 'Doctors choice' product, with regard to quality, the only thing ive bought form them before was ACAI - completely unrelated to this threads growing list of suggested supplements. ACAI was for slimming/detox benefit, but I saw no changes, but the contents of the capsules was very hig quality and tasted just like berries (not dust!) - so expect the Goji to be the same (should be dark red - stains!)
    with you-its easy to go off on a different tanget.I think it might be an idea if you or someone could summarise where we are at for supplements that work in terms of increasing libido ,getting an erection and maintaining it whether it involves self or with a partner, increasing semen volume If ive missed anything please add to it Preferably all natural .tks
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    ahh123, wanna take this one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by corsaking View Post
    with you-its easy to go off on a different tanget. .tks
    also, its not really, its assessing the quality of their produce, sure ACAI is unrelated but if youre going to take something daily you want to trust your supplier. Their Acai was good, hopefully, for this threads benefit, the goji is just as good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    Thanx for that feedback

    It'll mainly be a photo androgen product. One ingredient acts as a GDA an has some ursoluc acid and may help with cortisol

    Looking into 7,8 as I find it pretty awesome. As for the l dopa. I have it on natty v. This would be stackable for the ultimate experience
    For a mild AI you could add, Ive used:

    (S)-2,3-Dihydro-5,7-dihydroxy-2-phenyl-4H-1-benzopyran-4-one

    Its not as strong as erase but i do get the joint ache, would be good in a test booster.
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    One comment.. I dont know if this is the ongoing goji, or the week 5 of ISA-Test, but the missus asked me at the weekend "Has your penis got bigger... like from more use or something" (she doesnt know about test boost or goi effects) lol I had noticed everything felt a bit 'bigger' down there, balls and bag especially

    It just all feels 'heavier' down there.

    All good!
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    Also found a plethora of alpha 2 antagonists that can work well with alpha y to increase erection and testosterone.
    Been reading feedback from few guys on another forum that they use combination of alpha-1 (doxasozin) and alpha-2 (yohimbine) antagonist for erection boost.

    Mechanism of this makes sense since alpha-1 antagonist prevents contraction of smooth muscles in penis (so blood can come in) and alpha-2 antagonist help in production of NO (which cause vasodilation) and work on increased production of certain substances in brain that also increase libido like dopamine.

    A weak alpha-1 and alpha-2 antagonist is Phentolamine that is being used to cure performance anxiety and is being used in combo with PDE5 inhibitors like Viagra or Cialis.
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    Do people become dependant on cialis? Im curious to try it out but am worried i'll need to consistently take it in order to achieve an erection. Also has anyone else seen any Goji benefits so far
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    Quote Originally Posted by Z28Luver7777
    Do people become dependant on cialis? Im curious to try it out but am worried i'll need to consistently take it in order to achieve an erection. Also has anyone else seen any Goji benefits so far
    Interestingly enough, my Urologist told me Cialis actually inhibits estrogen. Go figure....
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    Quote Originally Posted by southsideguy View Post
    Interestingly enough, my Urologist told me Cialis actually inhibits estrogen. Go figure....
    Interesting, I didn't know that. Cialis (active drug is called tadalafil) is a known PDE-5 inhibitor and I wouldn't have expected it being able to lower estrogen levels.

    I just checked PubMed and I found this one study here: "Testosterone:estradiol ratio changes associated with long-term tadalafil administration: a pilot study"

    It was supposed to be a pilot study and it is from 2006. So far, there haven't been any follow-up studies. Strangely enough, the estrogen decrease only occurred in lean subjects even though obese subjects generally have more estrogen. If there actually is a mechanism by which tadalafil exerts anti-aromatase activity, I wonder why it should only have an effect in lean subjects. I am not sure if I really trust this especially considering the low number of subjects they analyzed. Could be a subject-selection bias.
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    I wouldn't call this a definite stack, but right after workouts I supplement my diet by...

    Ingesting:
    1 teaspoon of sesame seeds
    1/4 cup olives
    2 cloves of garlic (roasted, but raw works fine too)

    Results:
    ~5 large loads every 2 days
    ~oddly enough also induces slight insomnia (4 hour sleep dent)
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    Been taking 3g of 40% polysaccharide Goji for 2 weeks. So far no perceptible change in anything. Im sure it is quite healthy though
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    Quote Originally Posted by broons View Post
    Been taking 3g of 40% polysaccharide Goji for 2 weeks. So far no perceptible change in anything. Im sure it is quite healthy though
    Is it a 4:1 extract or just dry goji containing 40% polysaccarides?

    I'm still waiting now to get my Goji 4:1 from simplesupplements that should come already 1 week ago but weird with this shipping stuff and they said it need to pass 4 weeks before they can start investigation with shipping company what happened.

    Maybe will buy from another UK company that has Doctor's Best Goji 4:1 at 600mg caps and no Magnesium Stearate inside.

    Taking now Tongkat Ali 200:1 at 300mg caps 2x daily for 9 days and feeling nice boost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahh123 View Post
    Is it a 4:1 extract or just dry goji containing 40% polysaccarides?

    I'm still waiting now to get my Goji 4:1 from simplesupplements that should come already 1 week ago but weird with this shipping stuff and they said it need to pass 4 weeks before they can start investigation with shipping company what happened.

    Maybe will buy from another UK company that has Doctor's Best Goji 4:1 at 600mg caps and no Magnesium Stearate inside.

    Taking now Tongkat Ali 200:1 at 300mg caps 2x daily for 9 days and feeling nice boost.
    hi where did you buy that from .

    you probably know that simply supps are based in guernsey so your item has to come through customs. I expect with the olympic games being on , security will be exceptional tight and incoming freight/mail i dont see exempt from this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by corsaking View Post
    hi where did you buy that from .

    you probably know that simply supps are based in guernsey so your item has to come through customs. I expect with the olympic games being on , security will be exceptional tight and incoming freight/mail i dont see exempt from this.
    I bought 2 bottles of Tongkat from tongkatfitness which is UK merchant already last year so opened 2nd bottle 2 days ago.

    No, didn't know that for simplesupplements and I ordered already July 13th but yeah they said shipping times prolonged to 15 business days which is 3 weeks.
    Custom checking is why I buy supplements from UK and not US so this Guernsey location really sucks since now shipping time is same as ordering from US to get to my EU country.
    I mean i paid for shipping more than for 120caps of Goji and not even got a tracking link.
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    Quote Originally Posted by corsaking View Post
    hi where did you buy that from .

    you probably know that simply supps are based in guernsey so your item has to come through customs. I expect with the olympic games being on , security will be exceptional tight and incoming freight/mail i dont see exempt from this.
    Really? I ordered 5 days ago and got mine yesterday

    I dont live in london though

    Also, I dont need a passport to fly to guernsey, so Im guessing parcels wont be delayed either
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    Quote Originally Posted by RogerBob View Post
    Really? I ordered 5 days ago and got mine yesterday

    I dont live in london though

    Also, I dont need a passport to fly to guernsey, so Im guessing parcels wont be delayed either



    true you dont but think of the volume of mail thats coming into Heathrow , from every country which has probably escalated since the athletes and all the hangers on have arrived
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahh123 View Post
    Taking now Tongkat Ali 200:1 at 300mg caps 2x daily for 9 days and feeling nice boost.
    I wished I could take it. But I always get a bad headache from anything containing Tongkat Ali.
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    Give Goji a go
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    Quote Originally Posted by RogerBob View Post
    Give Goji a go
    You taking the goji extract? Actual berries or the juice?

    If the extract, whats the dose you take to notice effects?
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    Do you guys take your goji berry 4 caps a day or just one? Any noticeable difference?
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    Quote Originally Posted by flamingpope View Post
    I wouldn't call this a definite stack, but right after workouts I supplement my diet by...

    Ingesting:
    1 teaspoon of sesame seeds
    1/4 cup olives
    2 cloves of garlic (roasted, but raw works fine too)

    Results:
    ~5 large loads every 2 days
    ~oddly enough also induces slight insomnia (4 hour sleep dent)
    Don't sesame seeds decrease testosterone? Also thats a pretty random/interesting stack. How did you come up with that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RogerBob View Post
    Give Goji a go
    Will do that. Already placed my order at SimplySupplements.

    Would you say the Goji extract provides more benefits in the erection quality or in the libido department? Because what I could mainly use is something that gets me horny and excited more easily. I am actually at the opposite end of what they call premature ejaculation.
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