lean xtrme or erase ??
- 07-11-2011, 02:47 PM
lean xtrme or erase ??
hey guys im currentley using anabeta for a nice bulk but after the cycle im looking to use a daa product and wanted to incluse lean xtreme or erase to help with mid section fatloss and muscle hardness
which one of this products would be the better choice for trying to lean out ?? i havent used either of them before would love to see your views on which one is the best option.
my initial thoughts are lean xtreme and i think pes erase is not just focused on leaning up ??
- 07-11-2011, 03:53 PM
For muscle hardness, use Erase. Erase is an AI which gives great hardening effects
For midsection fat loss, use Alpha-T2. Alpha-T2 can target fat loss in the mid-section. Great for bulking and not wanting to lose the abs...or bulking and getting closer to having some abs
- 07-12-2011, 06:22 AM
07-12-2011, 08:04 AM
You could also try FormaStanzol by ****.....it's different than erase.....but would be just as effective. It's a transdermal formestane. Pretty cool product. I'm not knocking erase though. Erase is a solid product.
07-12-2011, 12:00 PM
07-12-2011, 01:13 PM
07-12-2011, 03:08 PM
07-13-2011, 09:54 AM
The Ki value of Erase on the aromatase enzyme is much lower than Formestane. The lower the Ki, the greater affinity the molecule has on the receptor. Since we are talking about inhibitors here, the lower the Ki value the more potent it is
Erase: Ki 0.22 mM
Formestane: 1.60 mM
Which makes Erase ~7x as potent
Formestane is a competitve inhibitor of Aromatase, which means it will take longer to kick in and you run the risk of estrogen rebound.
Erase is a suicide inhibitor of Aromatase, which will kick in faster and you dont have the rebound risk
Examples of suicide aromatase inhibitors include: Arimidex and Aromasin
07-13-2011, 09:58 AM
07-13-2011, 10:01 AM
You are correct, anastrozole/adex is competitve, as is letro. That is one of the reasons letro requires such long tapering off of the drug.
Aromasin is suicide, as is ATD
07-13-2011, 08:58 PM
I love lean xtreme, but erase sounds better in your situation.
07-13-2011, 09:08 PM
Erase would fill the bill better I think.
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07-14-2011, 10:04 AM
07-14-2011, 12:09 PM
I always thought Formestane was a Suicide Inhibitor??
Edit: After a quick google search I see nothing that says anything other than Form being a Suicide Inhibitor...
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