Best supps/enzymes for protein-specific digestion

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  1. I just got my digestive enzymes in from swanson. I got a full-spectrum one and a more standard type one. The difference in my digestion is incredible and I'm mad at myself for not taking enzymes for so long. Along with the metamucil bowel movements are fast, smooth and easy. Gas has gone down incredibly which was my biggest issue.
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  2. So is it gas and stools that have the greatest impact from the enzymes?
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  3. I would imagine it has a huge impact on your immune system as well since you now are actually digesting nutrients properly. I haven't noticed such effects from pre or probiotics.
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  5. You taking with EACH meal? IF so, how many?

    There is some conflicting data regarding these

    Some say that there is no problem taking these with each meal, actually encouraging it for complete digestion (especially considering all the processed and cooked meat we eat) as it allows for MORE nutrient uptake - while others are claiming it will have a detrimental effect on natty enzyme production (shutting it off)

    I tend to side with the former b/c these are NOT hormones.


    Quote Originally Posted by Flaw View Post
    I just got my digestive enzymes in from swanson. I got a full-spectrum one and a more standard type one. The difference in my digestion is incredible and I'm mad at myself for not taking enzymes for so long. Along with the metamucil bowel movements are fast, smooth and easy. Gas has gone down incredibly which was my biggest issue.
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  6. Nice OBJECTIVE article and perspective : http://www.livestrong.com/article/29...stive-enzymes/
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  7. Sadly, I was unable to extract the conclusion from this ambiguosly written Physiology report

    Little help?

    http://physrev.physiology.org/content/82/1/1.full
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    Sadly, I was unable to extract the conclusion from this ambiguosly written Physiology report

    Little help?

    http://physrev.physiology.org/content/82/1/1.full
    The authors' conclusions are that digestive enzymes are conserved and reabsorbed as whole proteins rather than being hydrolyzed in the gut.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja
    It sounds like you're getting a lot of junk fiber, but your diet also sounds messed up. 50% of caloric intake should not come from protein. How many grams per day are we talking here?
    50% from protein is no big deal, I do it when I am cutting and I am very regular..but I eat loads of veggies, almost a pound of cooked broccoli and asparagus each along with spinach and a tomato and a half red pepper a day. I attribute my regularity to that...

  10. Ditto here

    I throw one of those 1 lb bags in the microwave PER meal

    Green beans

    Broccoli

    etc

    Im a lean meats, greens and healthy fats guy

    Quote Originally Posted by uvawahoowa View Post
    50% from protein is no big deal, I do it when I am cutting and I am very regular..but I eat loads of veggies, almost a pound of cooked broccoli and asparagus each along with spinach and a tomato and a half red pepper a day. I attribute my regularity to that...
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  11. sooo essentially, this has little to do with my query regarding IF digestive enzymes are useless or useful

    prote
    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    The authors' conclusions are that digestive enzymes are conserved and reabsorbed as whole proteins rather than being hydrolyzed in the gut.
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  12. may have been suggested already..... but I'd personally start with Bromelain. Cheap and effective. There's a reason pineapple is used as a meat tenderizer in marinades.

  13. Yeah, I read that somewhere as well

    Interesting -Thanks

    Ive been reading about Betaine HCL and Apple Cider Vinegar as well

    All somewhat different MOA's. Need to investigare which issuperior and which comes with the least amount of potential risks


    Quote Originally Posted by Vitruvian View Post
    may have been suggested already..... but I'd personally start with Bromelain. Cheap and effective. There's a reason pineapple is used as a meat tenderizer in marinades.
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    You taking with EACH meal? IF so, how many?
    .
    Hmm... Let me think back a year. LOL

    I would take 1 with each large whole food meals. Breakfast, lunch and dinner. Not for shakes or small snacks in between.

    I found the full spectrum to be the most effective. The standard one doesn't do much at the reccomended dosage. I've never tried taking like 3 at once though. I eventually ran out of the full spectrum and stopped using it. I still have some of the standard "digestive enzymes" blend and use it only occasionally. NOW's super enzymes worked very well the last time I took it but it's been years. My stomach got so jacked up from various medications that I tried a lot of things in the past year.

    For myself I found metamucil psyllium husk and controlling heart burn with sodium bicarbonate(baking soda) or other ant-acids helped a lot.
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    Apple Cider Vinegar
    That always does a stomach good! For salad dressing I always use apple cider vinegar and olive oil and always feel great afterwards. I usually get those huge salad bags from costco and eat tons of salad in the evening. Fills you up, low calories, and helps greatly with digestion!
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  16. Thnaks Flaw
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  17. Hey there familiar faces

    I've been doing Keto for about 10 days now.. Experiencing the pros of fat loss but the cons of reduced size and frequency of bm.. Also finding indigestion and bloating to be a big issue... I want to eat every 3-4 hours, but I'm never fully digested due to all the fat n protein. I try to wash my meals down with apple cider vin, but obviously can't do that if I'm not home.. Interested in getting the now full spectrum enzymes.. That seem to be general consensus of best bet?? I carb up every 7th day and that 8th morning is sometimes like Christmas morning in the bathroom haha

    But again- biggest issue is the bloating/distention- i eat only meats and eggs- sometimesit will be chicken salad, egg salad, etc.. So That still remains within keto, right? I also willhave a shot or two of heavy cream to kick Start the hormonals.. Just wanna make sure I can get the bloating down- I'm used to LOTS of salad and green veggies for my fiber

  18. I do believe fiber is still fine on keto. True bloating (i.e. edema) is due to extracelullar water retention. If you're lacking GI motility, pop some EC stack

  19. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69
    I do believe fiber is still fine on keto. True bloating (i.e. edema) is due to extracelullar water retention. If you're lacking GI motility, pop some EC stack
    Starting on Monday

  20. Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    Yeah, I read that somewhere as well

    Interesting -Thanks

    Ive been reading about Betaine HCL and Apple Cider Vinegar as well

    All somewhat different MOA's. Need to investigare which issuperior and which comes with the least amount of potential risks
    I will be adding that to my regimen in a couple days because I have been reading up on the benefits of stomach acid on digestion. I will let you know how it works.

  21. Again, HCL is for people with low stomach acid.

    Be sure to read up on the risks associated with adding HCL to an already acidic or even "normal" environment

    Good luck.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thepaul7 View Post
    I will be adding that to my regimen in a couple days because I have been reading up on the benefits of stomach acid on digestion. I will let you know how it works.
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by Whacked
    Again, HCL is for people with low stomach acid.

    Be sure to read up on the risks associated with adding HCL to an already acidic or even "normal" environment

    Good luck.
    So I'm following a keto diet, very high protein and fat.. I added enzymes.. Has betaine.. Been pretty nauseous past few days.. That what u mean?

  23. I imagine nausea "could be" from the added acidity but if I were a betting man, I would guess it's not from the Betaine HCL.

    Excess acid form using HCL while already having/producing adequate amounts of HCL, would present moreso as a burning or warm sensation in/around the gut.

    http://www.modernherbalist.com/betaine.html
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by Whacked
    I imagine nausea "could be" from the added acidity but if I were a betting man, I would guess it's not from the Betaine HCL.

    Excess acid form using HCL while already having/producing adequate amounts of HCL, would present moreso as a burning or warm sensation in/around the gut.

    http://www.modernherbalist.com/betaine.html
    Yea shoulda specified.. Bad burning

  25. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    I do believe fiber is still fine on keto. True bloating (i.e. edema) is due to extracelullar water retention. If you're lacking GI motility, pop some EC stack
    Or call roto router

    Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    Again, HCL is for people with low stomach acid.

    Be sure to read up on the risks associated with adding HCL to an already acidic or even "normal" environment

    Good luck.
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  26. Or the healthy, side-effect free version: Alkaline baking soda

    Quote Originally Posted by kingjameskjf View Post
    Or call roto router



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  27. Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    Or the healthy, side-effect free version: Alkaline baking soda
    cheaper too! However I got a hiatal hernia in my esophageal sphincter so I'm on it for life.
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  28. ooooooo sorry to hear man
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  29. Dried papaya and pineapple have lots of enzymes to aid in digestion.

  30. Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    ooooooo sorry to hear man
    No worries bro, just one pill in the morning and I don't even notice it. The doc said it was likely from too much sudden intense and heavy lifting. I had taken a few years off lifting due to marriage and kids and then when I finally had time to start again, I went all out.

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUSHAH View Post
    Dried papaya and pineapple have lots of enzymes to aid in digestion.
    These do help.
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