Well guy's, you know I have been on a intense comeback the last 10 months..I have all the mass I need (well can always use more)...my biggest chalenge is getting ripped..I lost 70 pounds in 10 months but the last couple of weeks you guessed it another plateau.So I did a refeed this weekend gained 8lbs of water but boy were my muscles huge a little puffy, but huge none the less.My biceps measure 20 inches pumped not cold...So Ive tried all the latest and greatest fat burners and none really wowed me other than the good ole eca stack. I have started to take a combination that is ripping me up.This combo really seems to be working is 25mg Ephedrine HCL,112 mg Yohimbine,600mg Gugilipid,900mg of Macana Purines 15% L-Dopa to increase HGH naturally.25mg of DHEA,Goat weed and green tea extract.The Thermogenic action is unreal you will get hot flashes and sweat quite easily,but this combo seems to work.I will update after my very controlled study on this concoxtion is complete....