WHATS ALL THE FUSS OVER PES ANABETA ?
- 06-21-2011, 06:37 AM
WHATS ALL THE FUSS OVER PES ANABETA ?
seems to be a lot of hype over this product but is it justified? What makes it different to all other natural test boosters/anabolics out there.
Have read a study on rats \and the results looked positive , but rats are rats and humams are humans .
Yes i am a sceptic on any new supplement that comes out but when american supplements are twice the price here in the UK compared to the USA , i think its justified.
- 06-21-2011, 08:19 AM
Do you wish you was part rat like me? I could buy any supplement and be tonk by now.
On a srs note, I understand the scepticism, we have all seen how results have greatly varied from rats to humans. Time will tell....
- 06-21-2011, 08:21 AM
06-21-2011, 08:23 AM
Although it's more expensive than the US it's pretty much the same price as other test boosters in the UK. It just means that I'll be waiting for a few non-sponsored logs to come out before I think about buying it.
06-21-2011, 08:24 AM
06-21-2011, 08:28 AM
06-21-2011, 08:30 AM
06-21-2011, 09:54 AM
Only time will tell if it is justified or not. Only using it will tell if it works for you. The hype exists for a few reasons. Number one, people have enjoyed and gotten good results from the PES lineup. Number two, the logs of Anabeta has had very positive feedback. Popular company with a proven track record + great logs=lots of excitement. I know I'm buying it
06-21-2011, 09:57 AM
IMO, I think PES as a company is in it for the long run, don't think they would release a product based on hype just for a few quick sales. There must be some truth to its results, although everyone does respond differently and you're bound to get a few people moan. People need to remember, supps make a nice addition but diet is the determinant factor...
06-21-2011, 09:58 AM
And let's no twist this up with the whole hype thing. We did a blind beta test to see how the masses responded. We gave no details and let the loggers spell out everything. It was because of the loggers that we released it in the first place. In house is only so useful in testing. We didn't create hype, the loggers gave thier details and people got excited.
The Historic PES Legend
06-21-2011, 09:59 AM
06-21-2011, 10:00 AM
I dunno about rat studies, but my rats respond well to GHRP/GHRH, SARMS, Nolva, Clomid, Clen, Albuterol, T3, and other assorted chemicals...
Really, I think the hype is from the beta-testers unanimous results and experience. They all really enjoyed their use, and they're all pretty well respected members of AM. I know I'm going to try it.
It's MOA is pretty interesting if it's like the rat studies, basically a phyto-anabolic/SARM that also boosts testosterone. You'd get anabolic (muscle building) effects and a decent boost to testosterone as well. I think of it as selective androgen affinity, that only triggers anabolism and no androgenic side effects. That sounds pretty appealing for PCT or a straight natural cycle. Those assumptions are based on the rat studies, but that's pretty much all there is to go by.
It looks promising, has produced good results for well respected member, and for $30 it's something worth trying IMO. No reason to believe it's all hype since PES did not do much in the way of traditional marketing to hype it up, the hype was generated by "us."
06-21-2011, 10:24 AM
As far as everyone thinking since there is no human studies on people taking the extract and lifting weights, the skepticism is expected. I dont know about you but I havent seen any studies done on all the prohomones everyone rants and raves about done on humans. Except for the one on superdrol and liver disease.
06-21-2011, 11:42 AM
06-21-2011, 12:46 PM
06-21-2011, 12:57 PM
I think the logs and testers speak or themselves. It works if you do, period. A little research would have shown you real world results, not just rats.
06-21-2011, 03:30 PM
There are a few certain people who I don't see sabotaging their reputation just to release a single product and fool their customer base. Natty is one of them. Dsade from genomy and Eric from TN come to mind here as well. Also, I haven't had any direct communication with musclepharm, but i am thoroughly impressed with every MP product I have tried. Just placed my order for anabeta, to me it's a no brainer
06-21-2011, 03:35 PM
06-21-2011, 05:22 PM
06-21-2011, 06:04 PM
We started our research with the studies...we did not end our research there. We went on to formulate an extraction different from that in the study, more powerful in an anabolic sense in our opinions.
The fact it may have secondary test boosting properties is just a cherry on top...it isnt the mechanism by which it is anabolic
06-21-2011, 06:55 PM
It worked brilliant for me...undoubtedly worked brilliant for me. Skepticism is fine, I have the luxury of no longer being one
06-21-2011, 07:13 PM
06-21-2011, 07:39 PM
this company is totally getting murdered over at bb.c-o-m. people like the huge and bane are basically telling everyone over there that anabeta is a big scam and people should refer from buying it, very childish. i know, because i was there a couple of hours ago.
they also said they you would need the water extract or it would not work.
06-21-2011, 07:44 PM
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06-21-2011, 08:01 PM
06-21-2011, 08:23 PM
Funny 'cause The Huge used anacyclus pyrethrum(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=124866411) and really likes Ayurvedic herbals like Shilajit. Jealousy that AnaBeta is bigger on its pre-sale than BioForge v3 has been for a month?
bb.com sucks, just for companies preying on the uneducated, how many threads asking "can I stack creatine with a fatburner", "will I die if I take xxx", "check out my order brahz!!1!one". Sh!t is just annoying...
06-22-2011, 06:39 AM
06-22-2011, 07:07 AM
06-22-2011, 09:31 AM
Here is the thing, PES is quite new to the game and is making a stir, there will always be those who let their jealousy take over. Personally we are not concerned with those people and just let our customers make the judgements.
The Historic PES Legend
06-22-2011, 10:28 AM
06-22-2011, 11:02 AM
bb.com is terrible. Over here even reps from diff companies seem to have some respect for one another, at least for the most part. Theres no bashing of others products. You even here them recommending products from other companies. AM>BB. I use to like it over there. Its been going down hill for awhile. I like their articles , but the forums are blah. I have ordered my 4 bottles of Anabeta. I plan on starting them about a month after my current PCT to give my body a break and just be normal. Then I'm in for a cycle. I'm very excited about this product. I trust this company, great reviews and support for all their products. Haven't thrown out any BS products.
06-22-2011, 01:49 PM
06-22-2011, 03:13 PM
06-23-2011, 03:28 PM
I think that PES has done their homework here and there is a geniune buzz about the Anabeta. If the product produces the results for others that the beta loggers had then the "hype" will be justified. I don't think that these guys are going to risk putting out a substandard supplement at this point, they know what they are doing. I have alot of respect for these guys and the job that they do here, you reap what you sow in my book. I look forward to giving the Anabeta a try myself soon.
06-23-2011, 04:29 PM
You are exactly right though. PES is still extremely new to the scene and don't want to kill our hard fought rep. It is different for someone like muscletech to put out a crap supp, people will still gobble it up. If PES did the same, the market would eat us alive.
The Historic PES Legend
06-23-2011, 04:50 PM
I was a beta tester of the product and it works amazingly for me. PES is a great company. For one thing there products don't cost you an arm and a leg. There is nothing in their product line that costs more than $30 for a 30 day supply, as far as I know. It's different if the product is $50 but I don't think PES would price any of their products that high. I'm the kind of guy that uses mostly basic supplements such as creatine, protein and fish oils. Very rarely do I try anything else. There are just too many products that I don't respond to. In fact, I don't get anything at all from SHIFT, but it only cost me $14.99 to find out. Anabeta is very much worth the price to try it out. If you don't like it or it doesn't work for you, then hey more for me. If I tried it and liked it, most likely it will work for you. There just aren't many products I like.
06-23-2011, 04:52 PM
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