A pw that works as good as the 1,3dimeth stuff, without such a crash.

[jontrainer]

I use asgt. I think they use a mix of caffeine and bitter orange. No crash(for me). Lit Up is good too.

[jwa254]

Lit Up is good. The energy doesn't compare to 1,3 but it's definitely worth a try.

[VaughnTrue]

Lol you're the first then.

Based just on the half lives of the stims, no real "crash" can/should be felt, but everyone is different I suppose.