- 06-08-2011, 11:24 AM
- 06-08-2011, 11:33 AM
06-08-2011, 11:46 AM
"real" ephedra cannot be sold in USA for otc products. it would likely contain an alkaloid.
lets keep site names for this off this forum. thanks...
06-08-2011, 12:04 PM
06-08-2011, 12:05 PM
Ephedrine is an alkaloid of the Ephedra plant, yes, and that is what those products contain. No websites were mentioned in my post. Thanks...
06-08-2011, 12:15 PM
If you do not have problem with capping, I know where u can get Ephedra powder(the real thing). PM me
06-08-2011, 12:50 PM
well how about ephedra extract??? For example products like lipoderm..any good?? As for primatene is that as good or the equivalent as the ephedra that was in the original Hydroxycut?
06-08-2011, 12:51 PM
06-08-2011, 03:05 PM
06-08-2011, 03:48 PM
whats the deal with ephedra extract?? when a supplement says it has 25mg of ephedra extract is that the same thing or no good?
06-08-2011, 04:45 PM
it is illegal for a supp company to market/sell a product [ as a fat burner] containing ephedra alkaloids ( what makes it burn fat ). if it says ephedrine extract ( leaves) its garbage. if somehow you find a supp that says mu huang or sida cordifolia, its the good stuff...but probably old. i still have a little bit of lipodrene exp 2009 left but it doesnt have the same kick that it used to.
bronkaid and primatene are not marketed or sold as fat burners, which is why they are sold OTC ( in most places ).
For me, the action IS the juice.
06-08-2011, 05:25 PM
Case in point. Go to pharmacy and tell them you want to buy it for fat cutting... They will not let you have it. State the use is for respiratory, you will pick it up.
In my State of Alabama it is behind the counter at pharmacy for medical OTC use, not fat loss. Other states in SouthEast also restrict the "OTC" products to this application also. I get your point that it is OTC for purchase.
How about controlled or signed for purchase OTC purchase then?
BTW OP is referring to fat burners. So no OTC fat burners contain this...
06-08-2011, 07:07 PM
06-08-2011, 07:27 PM
06-08-2011, 07:35 PM
06-08-2011, 07:51 PM
06-08-2011, 07:52 PM
There is a difference between ephedrine and ephedra...ephedra has other alkaloids and in my experience ephedra is superior to ephedrine, especially w/ appetite control and energy.
I dont blame people for trying to find real ephedra...as I wish too.
06-08-2011, 10:32 PM
06-08-2011, 10:35 PM
Re: Bronkaid/Primatene. Don't buy too much per month or you get an interesting letter in the mail. They can also refuse the sale if you've purchased too much in a months time.
"I am legally blind and if I can Squat,deadlift and over all get myself to the gym then anyone can get their a$$ in gear and get strong!!" - malleus25
06-08-2011, 11:11 PM
06-09-2011, 12:07 AM
Ephedra has other alkaloids such as nor-ephedrine which greatly improves the appetite suppressing effects.
Its possible, although there is no answer that I know of to this...but the alkaloids quite possible have a synergistic effect with the ephedrine alkaloid for enhanced direct fat burning effects. This is just my theory though so dont take it to heart. I do know Ephedra gave me dramatic results where ephedrine just pretty good.
There was a product called Adipokinex back in the day (not current version) which contained 1R,2S norephedrine HCl which gave the best possible appettite suppression over ephedra and ephedrine. Stim effect was lower too so I here.
06-09-2011, 10:34 AM
ok guys, well i have been googling for a few days and have found a product called red cutz which seems to be Legit...Active ingredient says Sida Cordifolla (eph akaloids) 25mg...From my research this is the REAL ephedra that worked so well back in the 90's and is supperior to primatene correct??
Can anyone shed some light on this?
06-09-2011, 10:37 AM
I wouldnt exactly call it superior, you have to account for your needs such as additional stim effect, appetite control, and also account for the fact that old school MaHuang ephedra has much more sides.
06-09-2011, 10:40 AM
Ill add that its hard to trust many under-ground companies (even mainstream, lol). If you go to the pharmacy and get ephedrine for your breathing needs at least you know your getting pure, clean ephedrine.
06-09-2011, 10:43 AM
Or, as mentioned before, shop at Canadian websites.
Androhard + Andromass Log
06-09-2011, 10:46 AM
06-09-2011, 11:11 AM
so would pure ephedrine hcl like primatene to the trick in the ECA??? Have you guys had great results with that? If so I may just stick with that
06-09-2011, 11:14 AM
06-09-2011, 12:34 PM
06-09-2011, 02:26 PM
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