Are there any caffeine pre workout supplements out there?
Clout is better in my opinion. But many people do love Ultima and it has a good profile (ran it for 2 straight tubs, didnt do a ton for me).Ultima is all the rage on bb.com.. I never tried it, its expensive and never in stock.
There are a few, as well as products that are not "preworkout products" per se that were designed for and can be use pre-training, such as Drive and Cre-02, etc. - what you use really depends on your goals and needs. There is a caffeine (and stim) free Assault coming out soon.Are there any caffeine pre workout supplements out there?
Sweet deal! I know I've seen that request posted quite a bit....I usually make my own when I want to go stim-free.
I usually go with a MCC+Agmatine+BA mixture.
SNS MCC 120
SNS Agmatine
SNS Beta-Alanine
Yes, expect a Stim-Free Focus XT from SNS very soon.
Yes. We are very excited about it. Many have asked for a stim-free version for a good while now. It won't be long.Sweet deal! I know I've seen that request posted quite a bit....
Hemodraulix.Are there any caffeine pre workout supplements out there?
Man, that would be toughAre there any caffeine pre workout supplements out there?
Nice and simple, I like it.Agmatine and Creatine Nitrate is all i need
I have yet to buy since I have plenty of CN but definitely one of my top 3! With that said Ultima is currently my favorite. Sometimes i take it with creatine nitrate, piracetam & choline, and some form of carnitine.Musclefeast's anabolic ignite, check out the ingredients. I use it and it is awesome sauce. In my opinion nothing comes close to being dosed the way this product has.
I have been wanting to try this, it does look nice. Do you get Niacin flush with it though? If you take 2 servings like I most likely would do, I can see that being a pain. If it is time release niacin than no worries.Musclefeast's anabolic ignite, check out the ingredients. I use it and it is awesome sauce. In my opinion nothing comes close to being dosed the way this product is.
Your also getting close to toxicity levels of pyroxine with two doses. The formula would be much better if they switched to p5p.I have been wanting to try this, it does look nice. Do you get Niacin flush with it though? If you take 2 servings like I most likely would do, I can see that being a pain. If it is time release niacin than no worries.
It's the best non-stim PWO out that I've tried and I've tried a few. One serving is 3 scoops, I take 6 scoops (2 servings) to double up on CN and CM, and it is second to none. Yes there is a strong flushing sensation; however, it doesn't really bother me. I shoot most supps straight without a care in the world, so to me I could deal with a little flushing so long as my strength and endurance remain up in the gym. Hope that helps!I have been wanting to try this, it does look nice. Do you get Niacin flush with it though? If you take 2 servings like I most likely would do, I can see that being a pain. If it is time release niacin than no worries.
I may have to pick some of it up here eventually, not in a non-stim pre-workout mood right now so I would have to add in a stim. Sometime this summer though I will need to cycle off and it might be time for some of this. P5P would be nice, could be a cost issue though.It's the best non-stim PWO out that I've tried and I've tried a few. One serving is 3 scoops, I take 6 scoops (2 servings) to double up on CN and CM, and it is second to none. Yes there is a strong flushing sensation; however, it doesn't really bother me. I shoot most supps straight without a care in the world, so to me I could deal with a little flushing so long as my strength and endurance remain up in the gym. Hope that helps!
I actually like the look of that. I would still add in agmatine for chest and arms and delt days though.Musclefeast's anabolic ignite, check out the ingredients. I use it and it is awesome sauce. In my opinion nothing comes close to being dosed the way this product is.
agreed, p5p is a far superior form.Your also getting close to toxicity levels of pyroxine with two doses. The formula would be much better if they switched to p5p.
Agmatine will make its appearance in mfeast's intra-workout product, coming out late this month I believe. More importantly it will be dosed right. Think along the lines of VPX Powershock, except double the dosage of each ingredient and more servings.I actually like the look of that. I would still add in agmatine for chest and arms and delt days though.
agreed, p5p is a far superior form.
interesting...Agmatine will make its appearance in mfeast's intra-workout product, coming out late this month I believe. More importantly it will be dosed right. Think along the lines of VPX Powershock, except double the dosage of each ingredient and more servings.
I kinda like the flush when I work outI have been wanting to try this, it does look nice. Do you get Niacin flush with it though? If you take 2 servings like I most likely would do, I can see that being a pain. If it is time release niacin than no worries.
Yeah Def would like to see P5P in there instead!Your also getting close to toxicity levels of pyroxine with two doses. The formula would be much better if they switched to p5p.
I'm looking forward to this on as well! I hope it comes in a unflavored version so I can add it to something already flavored.Agmatine will make its appearance in mfeast's intra-workout product, coming out late this month I believe. More importantly it will be dosed right. Think along the lines of VPX Powershock, except double the dosage of each ingredient and more servings.
Sounds interesting. I am a big fan of Agmatine.Agmatine will make its appearance in mfeast's intra-workout product, coming out late this month I believe. More importantly it will be dosed right. Think along the lines of VPX Powershock, except double the dosage of each ingredient and more servings.
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