Caffeine Free Pre Workouts

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by southpaw23 View Post
    Musclefeast's anabolic ignite, check out the ingredients. I use it and it is awesome sauce. In my opinion nothing comes close to being dosed the way this product is.
    I have been wanting to try this, it does look nice. Do you get Niacin flush with it though? If you take 2 servings like I most likely would do, I can see that being a pain. If it is time release niacin than no worries.
    If my direct and cynical approach bothers you, just ignore it. I'm just saying what you need to hear ;).


  2. Quote Originally Posted by oufinny View Post
    I have been wanting to try this, it does look nice. Do you get Niacin flush with it though? If you take 2 servings like I most likely would do, I can see that being a pain. If it is time release niacin than no worries.
    Your also getting close to toxicity levels of pyroxine with two doses. The formula would be much better if they switched to p5p.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by oufinny View Post
    I have been wanting to try this, it does look nice. Do you get Niacin flush with it though? If you take 2 servings like I most likely would do, I can see that being a pain. If it is time release niacin than no worries.
    It's the best non-stim PWO out that I've tried and I've tried a few. One serving is 3 scoops, I take 6 scoops (2 servings) to double up on CN and CM, and it is second to none. Yes there is a strong flushing sensation; however, it doesn't really bother me. I shoot most supps straight without a care in the world, so to me I could deal with a little flushing so long as my strength and endurance remain up in the gym. Hope that helps!

  4. Quote Originally Posted by southpaw23 View Post
    It's the best non-stim PWO out that I've tried and I've tried a few. One serving is 3 scoops, I take 6 scoops (2 servings) to double up on CN and CM, and it is second to none. Yes there is a strong flushing sensation; however, it doesn't really bother me. I shoot most supps straight without a care in the world, so to me I could deal with a little flushing so long as my strength and endurance remain up in the gym. Hope that helps!
    I may have to pick some of it up here eventually, not in a non-stim pre-workout mood right now so I would have to add in a stim. Sometime this summer though I will need to cycle off and it might be time for some of this. P5P would be nice, could be a cost issue though.
    If my direct and cynical approach bothers you, just ignore it. I'm just saying what you need to hear ;).

  5. Quote Originally Posted by southpaw23 View Post
    Musclefeast's anabolic ignite, check out the ingredients. I use it and it is awesome sauce. In my opinion nothing comes close to being dosed the way this product is.
    I actually like the look of that. I would still add in agmatine for chest and arms and delt days though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ev52 View Post
    Your also getting close to toxicity levels of pyroxine with two doses. The formula would be much better if they switched to p5p.
    agreed, p5p is a far superior form.
    Serious Nutrition Solutions rep
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by kingjameskjf View Post
    I actually like the look of that. I would still add in agmatine for chest and arms and delt days though.



    agreed, p5p is a far superior form.
    Agmatine will make its appearance in mfeast's intra-workout product, coming out late this month I believe. More importantly it will be dosed right. Think along the lines of VPX Powershock, except double the dosage of each ingredient and more servings.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by southpaw23 View Post
    Agmatine will make its appearance in mfeast's intra-workout product, coming out late this month I believe. More importantly it will be dosed right. Think along the lines of VPX Powershock, except double the dosage of each ingredient and more servings.
    interesting...
    Serious Nutrition Solutions rep

  8. Ultima and SNI Nitric Shock are the 2 best non-stim pre wkts I have taken....

  9. Quote Originally Posted by oufinny View Post
    I have been wanting to try this, it does look nice. Do you get Niacin flush with it though? If you take 2 servings like I most likely would do, I can see that being a pain. If it is time release niacin than no worries.
    I kinda like the flush when I work out

    Quote Originally Posted by Ev52 View Post
    Your also getting close to toxicity levels of pyroxine with two doses. The formula would be much better if they switched to p5p.
    Yeah Def would like to see P5P in there instead!

    Quote Originally Posted by southpaw23 View Post
    Agmatine will make its appearance in mfeast's intra-workout product, coming out late this month I believe. More importantly it will be dosed right. Think along the lines of VPX Powershock, except double the dosage of each ingredient and more servings.
    I'm looking forward to this on as well! I hope it comes in a unflavored version so I can add it to something already flavored.
    :blindfold:

  10. Quote Originally Posted by southpaw23 View Post
    Agmatine will make its appearance in mfeast's intra-workout product, coming out late this month I believe. More importantly it will be dosed right. Think along the lines of VPX Powershock, except double the dosage of each ingredient and more servings.
    Sounds interesting. I am a big fan of Agmatine.

    SNS Agmatine
    I'm Back...

  11. sns agmatine + sns glucoronolactone

    I train very late at night and don't get much sleep as it is so this stack has been a favorite of mine!
    SeriousNutritionSolutions:::
    online rep
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