- 05-14-2011, 05:01 AM
Hey, new member here. Just started a cycle of H-Roid, I added Epidrol for some lean hard gains on my third day into the cycle. I am in my fifth day now. I am taking milk thistle for some liver support since I heard epidrol is a epistane clone and from what i known could potentially be harsh, I'm drinking about two gallons of water a day, and having about four protein shakes (whey gold standard) a day. my diet consist of oatmeal/bannana/shake w/water not milk 8am, 11am shake cottage cheese/ 12:30pm-1pm chicken breast rice /brown or white which ever avail./shake. 3pm cottage cheese w/fruit 7pm beef 3 days chicken 3 days fish 1 day w/ rice& veggies, 9pm shake cottage cheese peanut butter. I am looking to get a diesal ripped look, i don't have any pct set up yet, I'm looking into nolva or clomid, maybe an alternative that is just as effective, and combine w/ creatine to wayne off. Does anyone have any suggestions or feed back for me as I begin my journey. Oh yeah H-Roid 50/75/100/100/75/50
- 05-14-2011, 11:42 AM
Don't taper down your dosages on the PH's...just keep them there. You will be shut down at that point and lowering your dosages will do nothing but inhibit your gains.
Also, you're doing full standalone dosages for the two prohormones, even though they're already stacked. Unless you have a LOT of prohormone experience, I'd say that's not a good idea - both of these prohormones are methylated and are harsh on not only your liver but your blood pressure and lipid values. I would consider lowering the dosages on both.
Are you taking anything like Organ Shield (purus labs) or Cycle Assist (competitive edge labs)? Those will have liver supports as well as circulatory system supports - really helpful while on cycle.
Here's something I would try if I were stacking the two.
And for PCT go with something like Clomid or Toremifene. Seems from any research I've done that those are more plausible as far as HPTA restoration. A good Torm PCT looks like this:
Day 1-3: 120 mg
Day 4-7: 90 mg
Week 2: 60 mg
Week 3: 60 mg
Week 4: 30 mg
You could also add some sort of aromatase inhibitor (ATD, 6-Oxo, Erase, Triazole)starting in week 2 and waning the dose down to bridge the gap at the end of your SERM and to actually lower circulating estrogen levels.
Just my 2 cents! Hopefully others will chime in as well
05-15-2011, 01:00 AM
05-15-2011, 11:55 AM
Is H-Roid made by Hardcore formulations?
If so I think that's a Halodrol clone. I'm not familiar with Promagnon though.
What's the chemical name of the compound?
05-15-2011, 09:22 PM
As for the cycle, I think it's good. Is it your first? It is definitely a lot to stack two methyls, I will say. I've seen a lot of people who have PH experience do it, and as far as most methylated compounds go, Epi and Halo are at least lower on the side effect end.
Just keep a check on your blood pressure throughout the cycle and make sure you don't go overboard on dosing either of them. If you do the full 75 mg dose for Halodrol I wouldn't go above 20mg on Epi just because of excessive strain on your body.
But yeah as long as you take the proper supports during your cycle and do a full PCT with a SERM, I'd say you're good to go.
05-16-2011, 04:50 AM
05-16-2011, 05:50 PM
Yeah that's H-drol...great pro-hormone for first cycles. So is Epi from what I know of it. H-drol actually converts to Turinabol in your blood stream, which was a pretty popular oral steroid back in the day.
As far as the andro-hard goes, I don't really know how good it is. I've read some logs but haven't seen anything convincing. All the new andro series are supposed to be "legal steroids" but they're simply DHEA based hormone precursors.
I can't knock them though, I just don't know how legit they are. I'm really excited to see some of the Andromass logs soon, though. I think that may make or break the Androseries.
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