Poll: Which do you think is the best?

Mesomorph vs Assault

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  1. Well if anybody has a sample of Assault they want to send me I will compare the two. I personally really like Mesomorph.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by JN230 View Post
    do you have the research on how adding carbohydrates will actually cause glycogen stores to be depleted faster...

    and my workouts are roughly 16sets completed in 45min or less so im fast paced for sure
    Sure, let me do some digging and I'll post them at some point today. However, considering your situation, carbs pre-workout would be beneficial. They would allow you to utilize glycogen faster and you would be stopping your workout right before being depleted. However, if you increased your workout length you would have a slight performance crash once you became depleted.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by JudgementDay View Post
    Ya for some the 1'3 dime will keep people up, but I'm sure assault has just as much caffeine as meso(200mg)
    Assault has 150mg of caffeine per scoop. A SERVING is HALF a scoop.


    Quote Originally Posted by onlyone View Post
    I crash hard after a couple of hours... is that normal?
    Some people crash and others do not - I personally never have after using Geranium (then again, I don't crash after using anything, unless I come OFF them), but know of many who do and do not like it.


    Quote Originally Posted by islandmagic View Post
    I was looking for a new Pre-work becsue Assault was my 1# product then came APS meso I love it but the 1 3 dimethylamylamine was not for me....


    I have tried many other pre work but I keep coming back to Assault...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomahawk88 View Post
    Well if anybody has a sample of Assault they want to send me I will compare the two. I personally really like Mesomorph.
    I'm sure if you contact MusclePharm, they may have samples for you to get, or direct you to where you might find one.

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  4. You can read my log of APS a while back. I've tried both assault and Jack3d and although both at first gave me a some energy, nothing and I mean nothing for me has ever worked like Mesomorph. Hands down to date the best pre-workout supp ever. It is unreal to stack it with creatine nitrate too. As I said before it was like you had a personal trainer there to slap you around til you couldn't see straight. IMO Meso is def Top Dog.

  5. I haven't tried meso yet so I can't speak on it and will refrane from voting until I try it someday. But I will say I absolutely love assault it ranks up with my all time favorites. Assault,ultima,anadrualic state and lit up. Rag is pretty good too but the other ones are in another league. I would like to give Wyked a try too as It looks like an awesome product and it's backed by a really great company and owner. But I have so many preworkouts right now that I can't justify buying another at the moment.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by Tomahawk88 View Post
    Well if anybody has a sample of Assault they want to send me I will compare the two. I personally really like Mesomorph.

    I'm with you. I've never tried assault but Meso is one of my top preworkouts. I've tried quite a few. I'd be glad to try Assault though if anyone wants to hand some out. I love to try new things. LOL

  7. meso>assault from experience

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Rahl View Post
    I'm with you. I've never tried assault but Meso is one of my top preworkouts. I've tried quite a few. I'd be glad to try Assault though if anyone wants to hand some out. I love to try new things. LOL
    yeah i've tried meso before....but i'll try assault and review it if you'd like
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by Rosie Chee Scott View Post
    Assault has 150mg of caffeine per scoop. A SERVING is HALF a scoop.

    ~Rosie~

    So it's only 50mg difference and Meso has 200mg in a rounded scoop, most people only take a level scoop, so pretty close to the same amount of caffeine.
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by Ev52 View Post
    Meso is king, 18g of maltodextrin per scoop will keep me from using assault. I find the 1,3 in meso not to be overpowering like some other products containing it.
    i agree, i don't think the 1,3 is what powers meso. i think the thiamizine plays a bigger role than the 1,3.
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  11. Meso ALLLLLLLLLL the way!!!!! I'll leave a review as soon as I find the time to write one. Assault tasted great but didn't do anything for me but I still got much love for MP!
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  12. I have tried many pre workouts in search of the best. Mesomorph is clearly in a class much, much above the others. There simply is no comparison between meso and other pwo's. Alpha-male power, agression, explosiveness, focus and drive. Biggest pump one can possible have, seemingly skin tearing. Meso is king, and will probably never be dethrowned, unless they can make it taste better.

  13. Bump say it again Brother!!!! Awesome pumps

    Quote Originally Posted by Orangatang View Post
    I have tried many pre workouts in search of the best. Mesomorph is clearly in a class much, much above the others. There simply is no comparison between meso and other pwo's. Alpha-male power, agression, explosiveness, focus and drive. Biggest pump one can possible have, seemingly skin tearing. Meso is king, and will probably never be dethrowned, unless they can make it taste better.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Orangatang View Post
    I have tried many pre workouts in search of the best. Mesomorph is clearly in a class much, much above the others. There simply is no comparison between meso and other pwo's. Alpha-male power, agression, explosiveness, focus and drive. Biggest pump one can possible have, seemingly skin tearing. Meso is king, and will probably never be dethrowned, unless they can make it taste better.
    Amen!
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  15. How does Meso compare (effect wise) compared to say 1MR or Jacked, 2 other pre-workouts containing 1,3 - dim?

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Orangatang View Post
    I have tried many pre workouts in search of the best. Mesomorph is clearly in a class much, much above the others. There simply is no comparison between meso and other pwo's. Alpha-male power, agression, explosiveness, focus and drive. Biggest pump one can possible have, seemingly skin tearing. Meso is king, and will probably never be dethrowned, unless they can make it taste better.
    How many scoops/servings of Mesomorph were you using to achieve these skin tearing pumps?

  17. I have not tried assualt, but I have tried everything else . . . .there is nothing like mesomorph in my opinion.
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  18. Used both, Meso wins easily.

    Im no fan of 1,3d...hell, I've advised people to not use it at all on more than one occasion, but I wanted to see what this mesomorph was all about, and I was pleasantly surprised to find out that 1,3d can't be dosed too high based on my feelings on the product.

    The 1,3d 'feeling' on this, is NOTHING close to 2 scoops of Jack3d, probably not even one. I just got a locked in feeling from the stim combo, no bad effects. Actually, compared to jack3d / Maximize / Hemorage / even White Flood, it feels a little less "stim heavy".

    Arms felt like granite after doing back...the CN / Agmatine combo does the trick.

    Assault basically gave me no energy increase, might as well just have used bulk creatine.
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by hoopem6 View Post
    How many scoops/servings of Mesomorph were you using to achieve these skin tearing pumps?
    I drop a scoop and a half and 4 caps of Creatine nitrate broke into my pre workout.

  20. So which flavor of Meso does everybody like the best?

  21. Meso
    Serving Size: 1 Rounded Scoop
    Servings per Container: 25


    Amount Per Serving % Daily Value
    SYNTHENOX-CARNOSINE/NITRIC OXIDE SYNTHESIZING COMPLEX:

    Beta Alanine, L-Citruline DL-Malate 2:1, Arginine AKG, Icariin (50%)

    6,500 mg **
    MESOSWELL-CELL VOLUMIZING ATP MATRIX:

    Di-creatine Malate, Creatine Nitrate, L-Taurine, Creatinol-O-Phosphate, Agmatine Sulfate

    4,500 mg **
    NEUROMORPH-NEURO ENERGIZED STIMULANT MATRIX:

    Glucoronolactone, Thiamizine (Thiamine Disulfide Butyrate Ester), Methylxanthine Anhydrous (Caffeine), 3 7-Dihydro-3,7-Dimethyl-1H-Purine-2,6-Dione (Theobromine), Naringenin, 1,3 dimethylamylamine Extract)

    1,870 mg **




    Assault Supplement Facts
    Serving Size: /2 scoop (20 grams)
    Servings per Container: 40


    Amount Per Serving % Daily Value
    Calories 40 **
    Total Carbohydrates 9g 3%
    Sugar 0
    Vitamin B6 13mg 625%
    Vitamin B12 70mcg 1167%
    Calcium 75mg 10%
    Phosphorus 30mg 1%
    Sodium 30mg 1%
    Potassium 55mg 2%
    Assault Proprietary Blend 20,000mg **
    Muscle Explosion NO Matrix:

    Beta Alanine, L-Arginine Blend (L-Arginine AKG 2:1, Di-Arginine Malate, L-Arginine HCL), Citrulline Malate, Glycine, Suma Root Extract


    Strength Domination & Recovery Matrix:

    Creapure (Creatine Monohydrate), KreAlkalyn, Medium Chain Triglycerides (MCT), L-Glutamine


    Mind Connection Matrix:

    Taurine, Pyroglutamic Acid, L-Tyrosine, Caffeine, Papain 1000, L-Aspartic Acid, Pyridoxine HCL, Cyanocobalamin




    So yeah, even on paper meso looks better. ANYONE who HAS tried meso would know meso is better. Just look at the ingredients! LOL meso smokes assault....

    It's a KO for meso


  22. both are great. mesomorph for sure though. I dont like 1-3 dimethyl though so I would probably opt for assault
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  23. Quote Originally Posted by JerseyDrew77 View Post
    So which flavor of Meso does everybody like the best?
    Thats hard to say, I like Fruit Punch more then Grape, others like grape more, I havn't tried Watermelon yet, I believe T.O.M AKA thebigt said Watermelon is the best.
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by JudgementDay View Post
    Thats hard to say, I like Fruit Punch more then Grape, others like grape more, I havn't tried Watermelon yet, I believe T.O.M AKA thebigt said Watermelon is the best.
    taste wise watermelon, but i would drink meso if it tasted like battey acid- to get those great effects!!!!
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  25. ASSAULT!
    If Anderson Silva uses it, it must be nuts

  26. Quote Originally Posted by ninjah9 View Post
    ASSAULT!
    If Anderson Silva uses it, it must be nuts
    LOL
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  27. Quote Originally Posted by ninjah9 View Post
    ASSAULT!
    If Anderson Silva uses it, it must be nuts
    Sorry MP apparently I cant use Assault now. The only person I like less in sports is Tom Brady. I have even considered changing my name()

    But all joking aside I plan on getting a sample soon.

  28. Can I be honest? I absolutely hate 1,3 dimeth. However MesoMorph feels like their is no 1,3 at all. Its the perfect amount per scoop. I never crash or feel crappy from it. I recommend u all try it, ask Judgement for samples! (Unless he doesn't want to send out a ton of samples, believe me I've been there, its a real pain in the arse lol)

  29. Quote Originally Posted by blackscorp View Post
    Can I be honest? I absolutely hate 1,3 dimeth. However MesoMorph feels like their is no 1,3 at all. Its the perfect amount per scoop. I never crash or feel crappy from it. I recommend u all try it, ask Judgement for samples! (Unless he doesn't want to send out a ton of samples, believe me I've been there, its a real pain in the arse lol)
    WHAT!!!! lol, JK JK


    Speaking of samples I should be getting some in the next couple weeks and once I do I will start a sample thread so everyone who hasn't tried Meso yet can give it a go
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  30. Quote Originally Posted by blackscorp View Post
    Can I be honest? I absolutely hate 1,3 dimeth. However MesoMorph feels like their is no 1,3 at all.
    I second this, if I had to guess, Im saying 200mg Caffeine, and 20-25 mg of 1,3d per serving
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