Seriously Gyno from Trib & Saw Palmetto Need Help Please!!!

Page 1 of 2 12 Last
  1. Registered User
    Deadlifter5's Avatar
    Stats
    6'2"  198 lbs.
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Age
    23
    Posts
    68
    Rep Power
    75

    Seriously Gyno from Trib & Saw Palmetto Need Help Please!!!


    Hey guys,

    I'm new here and I'm in almost the exact same situation as Juicy J (tried to post a link to his thread but it didn't allow me ?). I took Trib and Saw Palmetto for 20 days. After 2 weeks I noticed Puffy nipples/gyno (don't ask why I didn't stop then). That was back in March (5-24th), I started with 1g of trib for the first 7-10 days and then went to 2g for the remainder, the saw palmetto stayed at 700mg throughout. Also started taking ZMA for sleep and had my antibiotic (since Nov.) but thats irrelevant.

    March was a really weird month, everything seemed to happen that month TONS of stress (since late Feb.), started drinking coffee to help my training/stay awake in school, switched training methods at the end of February- the new one has more frequency so more hormones??, also started bulking HARD- was eating 5000 calorie dinners and tons of junk (dirty bulk), also started drinking in January (didn't drink for 2 years since I started working out) and was drinking in March quite a lot due to stress and some celebrations too, and finally I tried smoking (cigs) on 2 occasions for the first times in my life. So yea this probably compounded what the trib & sawP was doing to me.

    Anyway I'm just wondering what I should do now, I've stopped taking trib & saw and stopped doing all that other stupid ****. It's been 3 and a half weeks without any noticeable improvement of my chest, should I just wait for the puffiness to disappear and try to cut? or ask my doc for an anti-estrogen/letro? or will I need surgery? I'm pretty nervous on the idea of taking anti-estrogens let alone surgery. Maybe it will go away on its own?

    Additional Info:
    - I gained about 15 lbs during the time I was taking trib/bulking since then I've only lost 5 back. I don't really notice any improvement in appearance.
    -I'm getting my blood test on Monday- they're testing testosterone, estrogen, and prolactin (asked for progesterone but they gave me prolactin instead).
    -Never really had gyno, just some very MINOR puffiness since puberty which was hardly noticeable and wasn't enough to make me embarrassed even at the beach. Now with this I've even stopped wearing some T-shirts and Polos, and try to keep my hoodie on as much as possible
    - I've never used any Pro-hormones or steroids in my life or had puffiness/gyno or gyno surgery before.

    Thanks for your help!!!

    PS If Juicy J is reading this, how is your situation now?

  2. Registered User
    corsaking's Avatar
    Stats
    5'8"   lbs.
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    ENGLAND
    Posts
    1,778
    Rep Power
    13342

    not clear why you would want to put saw palmetto and tribulus together.and for trib to work to the extent that it has for you ie 15 ilbs but reading into your post , i suggest that the gain was from calories from alcohol and not the tribulus Alcohol also encourages "estrogen. Whilest the liver is working hard to detoxify the body , it is not clearing estrogen .

    Have you gained fat around the waist ?
    it looks like to me that the excess calories from food and drink have been more than required and your puffyness is accumalation of fat from over indulging
  3. Registered User
    Deadlifter5's Avatar
    Stats
    6'2"  198 lbs.
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Age
    23
    Posts
    68
    Rep Power
    75

    Quote Originally Posted by corsaking View Post
    not clear why you would want to put saw palmetto and tribulus together.and for trib to work to the extent that it has for you ie 15 ilbs but reading into your post , i suggest that the gain was from calories from alcohol and not the tribulus Alcohol also encourages "estrogen. Whilest the liver is working hard to detoxify the body , it is not clearing estrogen .

    Have you gained fat around the waist ?
    it looks like to me that the excess calories from food and drink have been more than required and your puffyness is accumalation of fat from over indulging
    Yea I didn't even know it was a bad combo till now, I should have done more research. Also didn't even know alcohol impairs your ability to get rid of estrogen. I stopped doing both now.

    I gained some fat in the waist and some in chest, but because of the the puffyness it's the chest that really looks bad, not my waist.

    I'm wondering what I should do right now? I hear there's some kind of window of time to get rid of this thing.
    •   
       

  4. Running with the Big Boys
    Board Sponsor
    Rodja's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  220 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Texas
    Age
    30
    Posts
    23,083
    Rep Power
    918005

    Could just be estrogenic chest fat. I highly, highly, highly doubt that it is gyno from trib and saw palmetto.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys
  5. Registered User
    Deadlifter5's Avatar
    Stats
    6'2"  198 lbs.
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Age
    23
    Posts
    68
    Rep Power
    75

    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Could just be estrogenic chest fat. I highly, highly, highly doubt that it is gyno from trib and saw palmetto.
    But even so, what should I do to get rid off it? cut? take an anti-estrogen?
    Is that kind of fat hard to get rid of?
  6. Running with the Big Boys
    Board Sponsor
    Rodja's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  220 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Texas
    Age
    30
    Posts
    23,083
    Rep Power
    918005

    It's just extra fat. Don't be so gluttonous and it'll go away.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys
  7. Registered User
    corsaking's Avatar
    Stats
    5'8"   lbs.
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    ENGLAND
    Posts
    1,778
    Rep Power
    13342

    Quote Originally Posted by Deadlifter5 View Post
    But even so, what should I do to get rid off it? cut? take an anti-estrogen?
    Is that kind of fat hard to get rid of?
    accept your overweight and get on that treadmill
  8. Registered User
    Deadlifter5's Avatar
    Stats
    6'2"  198 lbs.
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Age
    23
    Posts
    68
    Rep Power
    75

    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    It's just extra fat. Don't be so gluttonous and it'll go away.
    The thing that leads me to believe it is not just fat is the puffiness of the nipples. I've gained weight many times before with practically no change in nipple appearance but now there is a huge difference. I want to believe its just fat and I can loose it but something tells me its more serious than that.

    I'm trying to cut now btw, I'll update you guys when I get down to my old weight (205). And I should get my blood test back Wednesday or Thursday so we'll see where my estrogen is at.

    This really sucks balls.

    PS There's no estrogen-like compounds in those phytoberry antioxidant powders are there?
  9. Registered User
    blackscorp's Avatar
    Stats
    5'9"  205 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Posts
    53
    Rep Power
    87

    Puffy nipples does NOT = gyno. It can be anything! Bloat, fat, anything. If you have a lump under the nipple that = gyno. You probably gained a good amount of weight which can add some extra fat around ur nips lol
  10. Registered User
    HondaV65's Avatar
    Stats
    6'2"  230 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Age
    52
    Posts
    827
    Rep Power
    2264

    Gyno from Tribulus?

    YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS!!??

  11. Registered User
    Deadlifter5's Avatar
    Stats
    6'2"  198 lbs.
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Age
    23
    Posts
    68
    Rep Power
    75

    Quote Originally Posted by blackscorp View Post
    Puffy nipples does NOT = gyno. It can be anything! Bloat, fat, anything. If you have a lump under the nipple that = gyno. You probably gained a good amount of weight which can add some extra fat around ur nips lol
    I really, really hope you're right.
  12. Registered User
    broons's Avatar
    Stats
    5'8"  0 lbs.
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Posts
    300
    Rep Power
    483

    everytime someone claims trib gave them Gyno, a puppy dies. Please don't kill puppies.....

    trib didn't give u puffy nipples. Drinking "quite a bit", gaining 15 lbs in 20 days of Im guessing mostly fat from a "dirty bulk" eating lots of junk are probably what is gave you puffy nipples and probably a little manboob.
  13. Registered User
    Deadlifter5's Avatar
    Stats
    6'2"  198 lbs.
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Age
    23
    Posts
    68
    Rep Power
    75

    Just got my blood test today, apparently they're also checking my thyroid. I should get the results in a couple days.

    Today's my biggest fat loss day I'm going to hit it hard!
  14. Registered User
    blackscorp's Avatar
    Stats
    5'9"  205 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Posts
    53
    Rep Power
    87

    Quote Originally Posted by Deadlifter5 View Post
    I really, really hope you're right.
    I am buddy. Take your hand place ur fingers on ur nipple. Rub around in a circular motion. If you feel a noticable bump, then yes you have gyno. If you feel nothing you are fine.

    Sometimes you can get gyno from puberty.
  15. Registered User
    Deadlifter5's Avatar
    Stats
    6'2"  198 lbs.
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Age
    23
    Posts
    68
    Rep Power
    75

    Quote Originally Posted by blackscorp View Post
    I am buddy. Take your hand place ur fingers on ur nipple. Rub around in a circular motion. If you feel a noticable bump, then yes you have gyno. If you feel nothing you are fine.

    Sometimes you can get gyno from puberty.
    Well I'm no doctor, but I don't feel a bump. Still puffy nipples or whatever is annoying and looks like ****. Can't wait to squat tomorrow and burn some more fat, BW is @ 212 now we'll see how this goes.

    Thanks for the help! I'll update when I can.
  16. Registered User
    IronFanatic's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Posts
    27
    Rep Power
    80

    don't forget to do the nipple circular twist-ala rashad evans.
  17. Registered User
    sking6464's Avatar
    Stats
    5'8"  225 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    canada, eh!
    Posts
    993
    Rep Power
    35756

    wow
    S K I N G REPRESENTATIVE
    PM ME IF YOU WANT TO GIVE ME FREE STUFF
  18. Registered User
    krebz's Avatar
    Stats
    6'0"  184 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Posts
    52
    Rep Power
    77

    As if tribulus had any other effect than libido booster
  19. Registered User
    Flaw's Avatar
    Stats
    5'11"  240 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Philadelphia, PA
    Posts
    1,278
    Rep Power
    1400

    It appears you got a case of man boobs from the weight you gained. Some guys are unfortunate when they gain some excess weight they gain it in their chest and middle. Instead of mostly in the middle. You may be one of those guys. It's not the trib and saw. Here's my advice, just lose the weight you gained and things should go back to normal.
    ôLord, whom shall we go away to? You have sayings of everlasting life"- John 6:68

    WHAT has science offered?
  20. Registered User
    swollen87's Avatar
    Stats
    5'11"  210 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    nj
    Posts
    1,766
    Rep Power
    2719

    the anti-biotic you took coulda played a part.... cipro jumps to mind ...
    Quote Originally Posted by alwaysgaining View Post
    I've also done fasting and doseing and felt grealt anabolicness , deffint hunger but I'm stronger than that keep full and vascular and strength gose up
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/177245-swollen87s-training-log.html
  21. Registered User
    Deadlifter5's Avatar
    Stats
    6'2"  198 lbs.
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Age
    23
    Posts
    68
    Rep Power
    75

    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Could just be estrogenic chest fat. I highly, highly, highly doubt that it is gyno from trib and saw palmetto.
    How do you get rid of estrogenic chest fat?
  22. Registered User
    Pro_MAX's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Posts
    83
    Rep Power
    83

    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    It's just extra fat. Don't be so gluttonous and it'll go away.
    This my friend.....lol
  23. Registered User
    Orangatang's Avatar
    Stats
    5'11"  176 lbs.
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    Columbus Ohio
    Posts
    1,103
    Rep Power
    1202

    Quote Originally Posted by Deadlifter5 View Post
    How do you get rid of estrogenic chest fat?
    get on the damn treadmill and starting cutting calories and eat well....
  24. Registered User
    rayactr2k6's Avatar
    Stats
    6'0"  218 lbs.
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Age
    26
    Posts
    227
    Rep Power
    298

    Quote Originally Posted by Deadlifter5 View Post
    I really, really hope you're right.
    Dude I'm pretty sure it wasn't the tribulus. I don't think that stuff really works all that well, and definately not enough to give you b*tch t*ts.

    You said you were stressed for awhile. Stress can affect your hormones, mainly cortisol, which will make you store more fat.

    Everyone else on here is most likely right, its probly your diet and need for more cardio. If that doesn't help, you could try a SERM or an aromatase inhibitor. I dunno how well those work at reversing gyno, but they'll certainly prevent any more.
  25. Registered User
    Deadlifter5's Avatar
    Stats
    6'2"  198 lbs.
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Age
    23
    Posts
    68
    Rep Power
    75

    Quote Originally Posted by rayactr2k6 View Post
    Dude I'm pretty sure it wasn't the tribulus. I don't think that stuff really works all that well, and definately not enough to give you b*tch t*ts.

    You said you were stressed for awhile. Stress can affect your hormones, mainly cortisol, which will make you store more fat.

    Everyone else on here is most likely right, its probly your diet and need for more cardio. If that doesn't help, you could try a SERM or an aromatase inhibitor. I dunno how well those work at reversing gyno, but they'll certainly prevent any more.
    If my hormone imbalance sorts itself out (with or without anti-estrogens) will my chest go back to the way it was? or did I just royally **** up?
  26. Banned
    Markusrulezzz's Avatar
    Stats
    6'3"  217 lbs.
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Los Angeles
    Posts
    672
    Rep Power
    0

    wait is this a joke thread or are we for real ? lol gyno from tribulus, nice I'll make that joke in the gym tomorrow, hey guys I got gyno from Tribulus
  27. Registered User
    corsaking's Avatar
    Stats
    5'8"   lbs.
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    ENGLAND
    Posts
    1,778
    Rep Power
    13342

    Quote Originally Posted by Deadlifter5 View Post
    If my hormone imbalance sorts itself out (with or without anti-estrogens) will my chest go back to the way it was? or did I just royally **** up?
    i think yoour getting paranoid -youve probably had fat accumalation around the nipple for some time as a result of your excessive drinking and eating.

    you start taking trib and saw palmetto , probably abit anxious wondering how your body will respond to them , then one dayyou wake up and suddenly notice you look as though you have man boobs .You associate that with the supps your taking and all hell breaks loose, when really youve had them all the time .-just my take on things.
  28. Registered User
    sking6464's Avatar
    Stats
    5'8"  225 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    canada, eh!
    Posts
    993
    Rep Power
    35756

    ^^^^solid take
    S K I N G REPRESENTATIVE
    PM ME IF YOU WANT TO GIVE ME FREE STUFF
  29. Registered User
    johnny666x's Avatar
    Stats
    6'2"  202 lbs.
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Posts
    16
    Rep Power
    51

    Quote Originally Posted by blackscorp View Post
    Take your hand place ur fingers on ur nipple. Rub around in a circular motion. If you feel a noticable bump, then yes you have gyno. .
    CRAP! I think I have gyno! I did as you said....and I felt a noticeable bump... IN MY PANTS! woo-haa LOL

    Just kidding

    I think it's pretty safe to say that the Trib didn't cause "gyno". I have been taking 1-2g/ day for the past 2 weeks (for libido, NOT working out) and as expected, I saw no change in my physique.
  30. Registered User
    ConcreteConny's Avatar
    Stats
    6'2"  222 lbs.
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Apartment 81
    Age
    28
    Posts
    4,054
    Rep Power
    50219

    I have puffy nipples for the most part. Except when I'm at a low BF%.
    It's just my stupid body wanting to store fat under my nips

    //CC
    SNS - Serious Nutrition Solutions
    My advice is exclusively my own and may not correspond with the views of SNS
    Questions or concerns? → conny[@]seriousnutritionsolutions.com
  31. Registered User
    Deadlifter5's Avatar
    Stats
    6'2"  198 lbs.
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Age
    23
    Posts
    68
    Rep Power
    75

    UPDATE - I just received my test results:

    Testosterone: 19.0
    Estradiol: <100
    Prolactin: 6? I think

    Thyroid was normal, liver was borderline so they gave me another test.

    The doc said my test, estradiol, and prolactin are all "normal" but then again my doc isn't a competitive powerlifter, what does this really mean? and more importantly, what does it mean for my chest situation?
  32. Registered User
    Flaw's Avatar
    Stats
    5'11"  240 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Philadelphia, PA
    Posts
    1,278
    Rep Power
    1400

    It means your normal son! Maybe not mentally but physically your fine. You've already been told what to do and don't go taking any anti-estrogens thinking it will solve your issues either.
    ôLord, whom shall we go away to? You have sayings of everlasting life"- John 6:68

    WHAT has science offered?
  33. Banned
    Markusrulezzz's Avatar
    Stats
    6'3"  217 lbs.
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Los Angeles
    Posts
    672
    Rep Power
    0

    hey guys, I got a quick question

    I got gyno from creatine, what should I do ? Should I take nolva 100 100 50 50 ?
  34. Registered User
    swollen87's Avatar
    Stats
    5'11"  210 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    nj
    Posts
    1,766
    Rep Power
    2719

    Quote Originally Posted by Markusrulezzz View Post
    hey guys, I got a quick question

    I got gyno from creatine, what should I do ? Should I take nolva 100 100 50 50 ?
    take it easy troll..

    tribulus can cause elevated estrogen.. this isnt the first time ive seen something like this...

    but that wouldnt be my guess as to what the issue is... id be more concerned about the antibiotic he was taking as they can also cause gyno
    Quote Originally Posted by alwaysgaining View Post
    I've also done fasting and doseing and felt grealt anabolicness , deffint hunger but I'm stronger than that keep full and vascular and strength gose up
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/177245-swollen87s-training-log.html
  35. Banned
    Markusrulezzz's Avatar
    Stats
    6'3"  217 lbs.
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Los Angeles
    Posts
    672
    Rep Power
    0

    Quote Originally Posted by swollen87 View Post
    take it easy troll..

    tribulus can cause elevated estrogen.. this isnt the first time ive seen something like this...

    but that wouldnt be my guess as to what the issue is... id be more concerned about the antibiotic he was taking as they can also cause gyno
    Yea but im sure his is not gyno lol ! puffy nipples don't mean ****, and even a very small lump doesn't mean anything.

    unless there is a lump and nipple itches and hurts when you touch
  36. Running with the Big Boys
    Board Sponsor
    Rodja's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  220 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Texas
    Age
    30
    Posts
    23,083
    Rep Power
    918005

    Quote Originally Posted by Markusrulezzz View Post
    Yea but im sure his is not gyno lol ! puffy nipples don't mean ****, and even a very small lump doesn't mean anything.

    unless there is a lump and nipple itches and hurts when you touch
    Brought you to by Markusrulezzzz, M.D.

    Everyone knows when you need solid advice, Markusrulezzzz, M.D. should be your first and only source.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys
  37. Registered User
    Deadlifter5's Avatar
    Stats
    6'2"  198 lbs.
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Age
    23
    Posts
    68
    Rep Power
    75

    I forgot to mention, when I took the trib&saw I noticed some hair growth/more acne...another reason why I think there was something hormonal about it. Although I'll admit loosing some weigh will defs help too, I've been cutting hard this week, still not much weight loss yet though
  38. Registered User
    gav86's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Posts
    67
    Rep Power
    140

    you'l know if had gyno, the lumps behind your nipples will hurt like hell, deadlifter5, you're way too paranoid.
    i suggest you stop smoking so much weed
  39. Registered User
    mscleaddictin's Avatar
    Stats
    6'2"  230 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    Half Moon Bay
    Age
    43
    Posts
    115
    Rep Power
    0

    You are all hilarious! Thanks for the chuckle Markusrulezzzz, M.D.
  40. Registered User
    Deadlifter5's Avatar
    Stats
    6'2"  198 lbs.
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Age
    23
    Posts
    68
    Rep Power
    75

    I think my cut needs some tweaking. My BW is at 213, I know I've been injured this week but it didn't heavily limit me as I just got back from ME squat day and its ok now. My diets been really high protein/low calories yet my BW is still going back n forth from 212-215, maybe I'll start a log this is getting a little bit annoying...summer is almost here :@
  •   

      
     

Similar Forum Threads

  1. Saw Palmetto
    By bobjones601 in forum Supplements
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 12-12-2007, 09:22 AM
  2. Saw Palmetto
    By metroba in forum Supplements
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: 10-09-2007, 03:09 PM
  3. Saw Palmetto
    By dr ozz in forum Supplements
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 09-21-2006, 02:11 PM
  4. Saw Palmetto in PCT...
    By Odessa14 in forum Post Cycle Therapy
    Replies: 15
    Last Post: 11-13-2005, 10:20 PM
  5. Saw Palmetto
    By Biggs in forum Supplements
    Replies: 22
    Last Post: 04-23-2003, 01:44 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Log in

Log in