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  1. Quote Originally Posted by XJDesertFox View Post
    I know mix is friends with the owner of askmass, I too have felt maybe it was all just...marketing? And I know that KA is different from ecdy, they both have their plusses and minuses.

    For ecdy its purity, for KA its full spectrum.

    I'll try both like I said, But id really like to get down to it, when one company is making a 99% 20-hydroxy extract while the other is claiming that 20-hydroxy isnt the active you need/or what works.

    Edit: I've already read the write ups, I've collected all the info available. Just being subjective like I said.
    Broscience aside, 20-hydroxy is what has been used primarily in the scientific studies if I'm not mistaken. Logs are great, people saying a product is great is fine, but the fact is that carefully conducted studies published in peer reviewed journals are the only thing that is truly respected in this type of argument.

    Phytomedicine. 2008 Sep;15(9):691-8. Epub 2008 Jun 26.
    20-Hydroxyecdysone increases fiber size in a muscle-specific fashion in rat.

    Tóth N, Szabó A, Kacsala P, Héger J, Zádor E.

    Department of Pharmacognosy, Szeged, Hungary.
    Abstract

    20-Hydroxyecdysone (20E) is an ecdysteroid hormone that regulates moulting in insects. Interestingly, 20E is also found most abundantly in plant species and has anabolic effects in vertebrates, i.e. increasing muscle size without androgen influence. The effect of 20E on slow and fast fiber types of skeletal muscle has not been reported yet. Here we present that 20E affects the size (cross-sectional area, CSA) of the different fiber types in a muscle-specific manner. The effect on fiber size was modified by the distance from the site of the treatment and the presence of a regenerating soleus muscle in the animal. Besides the fiber size, 20E also increased the myonuclear number in the fibers of normal and regenerating muscles, suggesting the activation of satellite cells. According to our results 20E may provide an alternative for substitution of anabolic-androgenic steroids in therapeutic treatments against muscle atrophy.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by sapentia View Post
    Broscience aside, 20-hydroxy is what has been used primarily in the scientific studies if I'm not mistaken. Logs are great, people saying a product is great is fine, but the fact is that carefully conducted studies published in peer reviewed journals are the only thing that is truly respected in this type of argument.

    Phytomedicine. 2008 Sep;15(9):691-8. Epub 2008 Jun 26.
    20-Hydroxyecdysone increases fiber size in a muscle-specific fashion in rat.

    Tóth N, Szabó A, Kacsala P, Héger J, Zádor E.

    Department of Pharmacognosy, Szeged, Hungary.
    Abstract

    20-Hydroxyecdysone (20E) is an ecdysteroid hormone that regulates moulting in insects. Interestingly, 20E is also found most abundantly in plant species and has anabolic effects in vertebrates, i.e. increasing muscle size without androgen influence. The effect of 20E on slow and fast fiber types of skeletal muscle has not been reported yet. Here we present that 20E affects the size (cross-sectional area, CSA) of the different fiber types in a muscle-specific manner. The effect on fiber size was modified by the distance from the site of the treatment and the presence of a regenerating soleus muscle in the animal. Besides the fiber size, 20E also increased the myonuclear number in the fibers of normal and regenerating muscles, suggesting the activation of satellite cells. According to our results 20E may provide an alternative for substitution of anabolic-androgenic steroids in therapeutic treatments against muscle atrophy.
    Im not a person who needs to see the studies, being a proponent of ecdy i've seen them all. I'm simply stating, that THE BIGGEST people in the ecdy world, dont like it. For all I know they could be salesmen all in on it together. Or, they could be legit and truly believe a full spectrum extract is required for true utilization of RCE.
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  3. mass addiction has ecdy and stuff to increase its absorption i think.
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by XJDesertFox View Post
    Im not a person who needs to see the studies, being a proponent of ecdy i've seen them all. I'm simply stating, that THE BIGGEST people in the ecdy world, dont like it. For all I know they could be salesmen all in on it together. Or, they could be legit and truly believe a full spectrum extract is required for true utilization of RCE.
    I give u props brother! After a few months on ecdymorph im either gonna stack with Ebol or try ebol as a solo. I'm not the type to shove studies down ones throat

    Mixle has been MIA for a while now.... He was my best friend when trying to sell me his blueprint then after I bought it he was gone and haven't seen him post since.


  5. he still posts and responds on the blueprint forums, but i rly havnt seen him on these boards in a while
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by tnubs View Post
    he still posts and responds on the blueprint forums, but i rly havnt seen him on these boards in a while
    tnubs...you emails are full.
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    tnubs...you emails are full.
    all better!
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by tnubs View Post
    all better!
    ah..sorry to late now...had that coupon code for 75% off nutraplanet store any size order but I had to let it go to someone else.

    j/p
    나는 2000년 10월 매들린 올브라이트 전 미 국무장관 매들린 사랑, 그 중 한 뜨거운 젠장!

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Dandelo View Post
    This stuff is amazing. The sense of well being it gives me is unreal.
    What stuff? I mean what brand/label. Thanks.

  10. Hey guys what's up. I just want to give props to Nutraplanet. I ordered my Ecdy on thursday and I just got it. 2 days..Yah bro, two bottled of Ecdy. Loving it, can't wait to use it, thank you IFORCE and Nutra..SJ
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by SuppJunkie View Post
    Hey guys what's up. I just want to give props to Nutraplanet. I ordered my Ecdy on thursday and I just got it. 2 days..Yah bro, two bottled of Ecdy. Loving it, can't wait to use it, thank you IFORCE and Nutra..SJ
    When will you start using it?


  12. Quote Originally Posted by StakedCop View Post
    When will you start using it?
    So, im hearing 75mg-100mg Ecdy, how many week would this best be run at?

  13. Quote Originally Posted by TehProdigy View Post
    So, im hearing 75mg-100mg Ecdy, how many week would this best be run at?
    Ecdy should be run for the rest of your life! haha, probably 2 months would be a sensible cycle length.
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by tnubs View Post
    Ecdy should be run for the rest of your life! haha, probably 2 months would be a sensible cycle length.
    2 Bottles of iForce Ecdy would be needed, at 3 caps a day for 60 days. Also, what else should be stacked with this? Or should it be solo'ed for a first time user of the stuff

  15. ^^ Also, should Ecdy be ramped up to 3-4 caps a day (for first time user) or just start at 3 caps?

  16. Quote Originally Posted by TehProdigy View Post
    ^^ Also, should Ecdy be ramped up to 3-4 caps a day (for first time user) or just start at 3 caps?
    just start with whatever dose u wanna run with. so like 3 or 4 caps on day 1. id run it solo the first time to see how exactly it effects you
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by TehProdigy View Post
    ^^ Also, should Ecdy be ramped up to 3-4 caps a day (for first time user) or just start at 3 caps?
    Start at 3

    Ecdy is VERY stackable

    -methoxy

    -X factor advanced

    - true Turk

    -other ecdy

    -test boosters

    -isoflavones

    Just my fav


  18. Quote Originally Posted by tnubs View Post
    just start with whatever dose u wanna run with. so like 3 or 4 caps on day 1. id run it solo the first time to see how exactly it effects you
    Alrighty, well. Im running the DrivenSports stack currently.. Tria, AX, and LX. Once finished with this stack how long should I wait before hopping into something like Ecdy(2bottles,3caps per day, 60days)?

  19. Quote Originally Posted by TehProdigy View Post
    Alrighty, well. Im running the DrivenSports stack currently.. Tria, AX, and LX. Once finished with this stack how long should I wait before hopping into something like Ecdy(2bottles,3caps per day, 60days)?
    No breaks!!!! Start it the day you stop lol that's how i role


  20. Quote Originally Posted by TehProdigy View Post
    Alrighty, well. Im running the DrivenSports stack currently.. Tria, AX, and LX. Once finished with this stack how long should I wait before hopping into something like Ecdy(2bottles,3caps per day, 60days)?
    u can jump right into it. like the day after u finish. its pretty much one of the safest compounds and even if u threw it in with the stack ur running right now, you wouldnt have any problems
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by tnubs View Post
    u can jump right into it. like the day after u finish. its pretty much one of the safest compounds and even if u threw it in with the stack ur running right now, you wouldnt have any problems
    Hey, mom said the meatloaf is ready get your ass down stairs I'm hungry!

    Lol


  22. Quote Originally Posted by tnubs View Post
    u can jump right into it. like the day after u finish. its pretty much one of the safest compounds and even if u threw it in with the stack ur running right now, you wouldnt have any problems
    Alrighty, thanks alot tnubs. I will end up waiting until im done with my current stack, just to see how my body reacts to Ecdy alone. Say it goes well, (i know it will), what would be good to stack with it then?? And after the DS cycle comes Ecdy alone, how long should I cycle off Ecdy for?

  23. Quote Originally Posted by TehProdigy View Post
    ^^ Also, should Ecdy be ramped up to 3-4 caps a day (for first time user) or just start at 3 caps?
    looks like tnubs and staked have this well under control! I agree that it is easily stackable but also good to start solo if it's your first time to see how you react to it. You can always add things in later if you'd like.
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  24. I would actually say do not wait til you are done prodigy but rather you overlap/layer with last week to 10 days of your current supplement stack with the start of your ecdy run. I almost ALWAYS use the idea of layering with all of my supps/ped's and imo it makes the most sense after picking the idea up from ALRI in one of his books...maybe Building the Perfect Beast.

    Currently I just came off a lil 2 weeker and my pct consists of nolva/clomid/triazole and 6-8 I-force ecdy. I will be downing 30-40 tabs of humapro along with plenty of chicken/beef/eggs/greek yogurt/fish ect ect so protein will always be in excess of 350 grams a day. I only have 2 bottles of ecdy and at 6-8 caps a day I have about a months worth. The third week in I will add 6 of the new Activate and 3 tabs Deisel test pro cycle a day and on the third week of that I will overlap it with 3 bridge and 4 hcgen a day. THree weeks into that lil layer I will HOPEFULLY be adding in the PES ana-beta and maybe more activate. By the time all that is done it will be time for my SUMMER SLAM CYCLE :-) IBBBBBEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE???? ??? I wanna go MENT-AL!!!! Hahaha

    Soo rewind to right now. I am about 4 days in to using nolva/clomid/triazole along with 8 ecdy caps as follows.
    2 caps with 10 humapro tabs
    30-40 grams protein from regular food aka breakfast
    1 cap with 5 humapro tabs
    40-50 grams protien from regular food aka lunch
    2 caps with 5 humapro tabs preworkout
    2 caps with 10 humapro tabs postworkout
    30-40 grams protein from regular food aka dinner
    1 cap with 5 humapro tabs

    I use/will use less ecdy on the days I do not train, so probably 6 caps a day.

    So far I have seemed to notice the following:

    Better pumps and a feeling of fullness/pump after dosing ecdy ( could be in my head but I am not expecting much from this supp based on the fact I would rather be pinning it).

    Very dense hard pumps while training and maybe a little extra drive.

    Increase appetite also seems to be present so far. Nothing like 600 mcgs of ghrp6 LoL, however it does seem to have me wanting food all day long.

    Mood seems to be a little better on this. Nothing astonishingly strong here so far, rather just I seem to be a little more upbeat on this soo far and have little more energy.

    I will keep it going with an update here and there if anyone wants.

  25. Well, again, my reason being to take it right after, instead of overlap is to see how I react to Ecdy only.

  26. This stuff makes my muscles full, mood excellent, less bloat, and I sweat like crazy. I could feel it work almost immediately. Oh yeah, I recover VERY quickly. Not bad for day 4. 2/2/3/3

  27. Quote Originally Posted by Dandelo View Post
    This stuff makes my muscles full, mood excellent, less bloat, and I sweat like crazy. I could feel it work almost immediately. Oh yeah, I recover VERY quickly. Not bad for day 4. 2/2/3/3
    Im hearing great things about Ecdy, I think tossing it in after my DS stack will be a good way to top off the cycle. I'll hop right into it though, at 3 pills per day.

  28. Check out my thread, im interested in Ecdy. Could i get some help here?

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  29. Slin sane pre and post plus some na-rala seems to work quite nicely. I would like to add some methoxy into the mix, any recommendations on brand/dosage would be appreciated. Maybe I Force could drop some products to stack with the ecdy? Just a thought. This stuff is legit.

  30. Quote Originally Posted by Dandelo View Post
    This stuff makes my muscles full, mood excellent, less bloat, and I sweat like crazy. I could feel it work almost immediately. Oh yeah, I recover VERY quickly. Not bad for day 4. 2/2/3/3
    Good stuff! Reading that makes me really excited to use it for my pct!!!!!

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