I Force ECDY

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  1. I thought you guys might find this encouraging

    One study done by Russian scientists suggested that Beta Ecdysterone possesses a wide spectrum of anabolic action on the contractile proteins of the skeletal muscles and also exerts a pronounced influence on physical endurance of animals when training. 2 Another group of Russian researchers looked at the combined effects of ecdysterone and a high protein diet. They found that when athletes combined a high protein diet with Ecdysterone, lean muscle mass increased by 6-7% and body-fat decreased by 10%. 3


    2. Chermynkh, N. S., Shimanovskii, N. L., Shutko, G. V. and Syrov, V. N. (1988) The action of methandrostenolone and ecdysterone on the physical endurance of animals and on protein metabolism in the skeletal muscles. Farmakologia I Toksikogia. 51 (6), 57-60.

    3. Simakin, S. Yu. et al., (1998) The combined use of ecdisten and the product 'Bodrost' during training in cyclical types of sports. Scientific Sports Bulletin. No 2.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by tnubs View Post
    ecdy has a molecular weight that is much too high to do as a transdermal. sublingual would work, tho.

    theres a lot of filler in the ecdy caps too since its only 25mg per cap. there needs to be significantly more volume to make the capping process work. so it wouldnt work for sublingual/transdermal/or injectable
    Are you sure the sublingual wouldn't be worth a shot? I use a buccal (basically same as sublingual) delivery method for the resveratrol I take each day. If I were to use the same method I am sure I would get better absorption into the blood stream. Even if only 1-2% of the 25mg makes it into the bloodstream that can still make a difference. My method for the resv. is to mix about 1 Tbsp. water with 1 tsp. lecithin, the resv. and a little bit of stevia and vanilla extract for flavoring. I swish it around in my mouth for up to 5 min. and then swallow. The studies show that with resv. this creates a significantly higher blood spike than through basic oral delivery.

    Just a thought, I may give it a try. It would be frustrating in that there is likely no way to gauge the success or lack thereof with the above method.
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  3. was wondering why people dont just use grapefruit juice to increase biovailabity and digestion of ECDY?

  4. Quote Originally Posted by jayice View Post
    was wondering why people dont just use grapefruit juice to increase biovailabity and digestion of ECDY?
    I do with 2 out of my 4 doses of ecdy.


  5. Because your taking Grapefruit juice?????
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by MetaBeta View Post
    Because your taking Grapefruit juice?????
    No I eat whole grape fruit. I'm not a fan of juice.


  7. Hmm the "grapefruit factor"
    I'll have to try this!!

  8. Quote Originally Posted by MetaBeta View Post
    Hmm the "grapefruit factor"
    I'll have to try this!!
    There's a lot of research on it I'll see if I can dig some up. I know it's been discussed in depth on here.


  9. I've heard of the Grapefruit factor, DHB & Bioperine. Just never thought of combining it with ecdy. Going out now to pick up my couple of ecdy bottles from the post office and snag some grapefruit juice. Still on my first bottle of ecdy and gettin that nice fullness and some muscle hardness. May up this to 4caps a day. Ever do more than 4??

  10. Quote Originally Posted by MetaBeta View Post
    I've heard of the Grapefruit factor, DHB & Bioperine. Just never thought of combining it with ecdy. Going out now to pick up my couple of ecdy bottles from the post office and snag some grapefruit juice. Still on my first bottle of ecdy and gettin that nice fullness and some muscle hardness. May up this to 4caps a day. Ever do more than 4??
    No, for is sweet enough for me. I'm have like 4 bottles of testabolinV2 that I'm gonna stack it with in about a month or 2 so I should be well over 100mgs with the Tv2


  11. This stuff is amazing. The sense of well being it gives me is unreal.

  12. when did you start?
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by StakedCop View Post
    There's a shiiit ton of dif ecdy supps with dif types of ecdy. The stuff I force is using is the BEST. 75-100mg and you'll be happy.
    have you tried kre-anabolyn? Or any full spectrum extract? Everything I'm being told by a certain few people who specialize in ecdy are telling me oral 20-hydroxy is worthless, and isnt the actual active you look for in the plant.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by XJDesertFox View Post
    have you tried kre-anabolyn? Or any full spectrum extract? Everything I'm being told by a certain few people who specialize in ecdy are telling me oral 20-hydroxy is worthless, and isnt the actual active you look for in the plant.
    I've used Mstack, sic fit 300 and Iforce. I force ecdymorph is awesome. Your sources have not used EM?

    Edit- I meant have your sources used ecdymorph? Sorry


  15. Quote Originally Posted by Dandelo View Post
    This stuff is amazing. The sense of well being it gives me is unreal.
    Awesome to hear, I got 2 bottles I really really want to use but I am saving them for pct, driving me nuts!

    Mike
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by XJDesertFox View Post
    have you tried kre-anabolyn? Or any full spectrum extract? Everything I'm being told by a certain few people who specialize in ecdy are telling me oral 20-hydroxy is worthless, and isnt the actual active you look for in the plant.
    sounds like what mixel(the blueprint guy) was tellin me
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by StakedCop View Post
    I've used Mstack, sic fit 300 and Iforce. I force ecdymorph is awesome. Your sources have not used EM?

    Edit- I meant have your sources used ecdymorph? Sorry
    I personally am going to try the iforce ecdy, but my fellow blueprint believers dont seem to be for it.

    Quote Originally Posted by tnubs View Post
    sounds like what mixel(the blueprint guy) was tellin me
    yep, i started a thread on the BC forums and thats what the response was.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by XJDesertFox View Post
    I personally am going to try the iforce ecdy, but my fellow blueprint believers dont seem to be for it.



    yep, i started a thread on the BC forums and thats what the response was.
    I'm a little confused as the the mixel/blueprint issues at the moment.


    They have been suggesting the use of Ecdysterone, correct? What products do they suggest to use that is a full spectrum? The only 2 I've seen mentioned are not full spectrum, but contain 95% 20-hydroxyecdysone...
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  19. so is 75mg/day about right for someone who's 170?
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  20. Quote Originally Posted by DaJaP View Post
    so is 75mg/day about right for someone who's 170?
    Do you see the size of VaughnTrue? He takes 75mg a day.
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by VaughnTrue View Post
    I'm a little confused as the the mixel/blueprint issues at the moment.


    They have been suggesting the use of Ecdysterone, correct? What products do they suggest to use that is a full spectrum? The only 2 I've seen mentioned are not full spectrum, but contain 95% 20-hydroxyecdysone...
    Anyone who bashes EcdyMorph has obviously not tried it.

    After I'm done with my 10 bottles of EcdyMorph I will try Ebol and compare them. It's not gonna be for like a year tho, lol $20 for 20-30 day supply of ecdy Vaughn has gone mad!!!! Ebol just seems over priced now but I am still looking forward to trying it.


  22. Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    Do you see the size of VaughnTrue? He takes 75mg a day.
    75mg is a great dose. However, I enjoy 100mg a day spread out with 4 meals with 2 of the meals being pre and post workout.


  23. Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    Do you see the size of VaughnTrue? He takes 75mg a day.
    label suggest 1-2 caps 1-2 times s day, 75 mg isnt a stretch, thanks for the unecessary d-bag comment though
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by StakedCop View Post
    75mg is a great dose. However, I enjoy 100mg a day spread out with 4 meals with 2 of the meals being pre and post workout.
    hmm, ive been taking 1 in the AM and with me pre WO meal, maybe i'll structure it closer to your dosing and see if i notice any benefit
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by DaJaP View Post
    hmm, ive been taking 1 in the AM and with me pre WO meal, maybe i'll structure it closer to your dosing and see if i notice any benefit
    Cool brother let me know btw at first glance I thought you were calling me a dbag, lol I said to myself damn, ouch, what the heck did I say wrong man!! Then I noticed who it was directed at,

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