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    Which is better?


    im tight on money and need a pre workout!

    So which is better?

    Muscle marinade
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    Maximuze V2

    or if you have any others that arnt wicked expensive throw them out there!

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    I really like mesomorph, ultima and lit-up. Applied Lit-up is an excellent value.
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    caffeine 200mg + creatine mono 5g if you're really on a budget!

    APS Mesomorph is the best pre-workout, hands down.

    Of your 2 choices, I would go Maximize for value per stim dose.
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    Jack3d is cheap
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    ok thank you guys! :]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milas View Post
    caffeine 200mg + creatine mono 5g if you're really on a budget!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milas View Post
    caffeine 200mg + creatine mono 5g if you're really on a budget!
    That brings back some old memories. I agree.
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    ECA + creatine + beta lanine= cheap bastard Preworkout


    ^^ECA is dirt cheap and so are creatine and BA
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    Maximize V2 is a steal right now, if you are ok with 1,3.

    L.I.T. UP is excellent too (and 1,3 free) and if you PM a rep I am sure you can get great discount codes to get off their site.
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    BTW if anyone cares...making your own preworkout is a bish, i just made my own (creapure, l-taurine, arginine hcl, arginine AKG, arginine nitrate, quercetin, and gerenium, plus flavoring ) not easy mixing all those ingredients plus i made a mess which i now have to clean.
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    haha o man thats rough, hey rochabp I was just looking around nutraplanet and I saw AndroHard by Primordial performance it says dont use if you are younger than 18, I thought androhard was a PH??
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThER6KinG View Post
    haha o man thats rough, hey rochabp I was just looking around nutraplanet and I saw AndroHard by Primordial performance it says dont use if you are younger than 18, I thought androhard was a PH??
    it is. its a prohormone to stanolone (DHT).

    i dont get what you are asking. are you asking why it doesnt say "dont use if under 21"???

    maybe because once your 18 you can legaly do what you want. idk im not sure.
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    oo ok yea I just didnt understand why it didnt say dont use if under 21 like all the other PH's haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milas View Post
    caffeine 200mg + creatine mono 5g if you're really on a budget!

    APS Mesomorph is the best pre-workout, hands down.

    Of your 2 choices, I would go Maximize for value per stim dose.
    same here, a caff tab and some creapure and you cant get cheaper than that, both will last many months, for $20 total
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    Quote Originally Posted by sking6464 View Post
    same here, a caff tab and some creapure and you cant get cheaper than that, both will last many months, for $20 total
    ^^I actually prefer this combo over the 1,3 products out there....

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    ok ill check it out! thank you very much man
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    There are a lot of good PWO out there, and there are a couple that I think are top notch and my personal faves. Jack3d and N2KTS with N2KTS getting the slight edge in my book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryansm View Post
    ^^I actually prefer this combo over the 1,3 products out there....
    i loved jack3d, even 1mr and musclespeed were good, but the rest of the clones not so much.....too cracked out

    1,3 is going to be banned eventually, there is something wrong with it, its fkn amphetimines really....iv been weaning off it, going for stuff like

    assault
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    i just ordered the new animal rage

    anything but 1,3
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    Primordial's GPLC, Creapure creatine, Beta-Alanine and perhaps 5 dollar bottle of caffeine pills.
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    anyone know where i can get bulk Evodiamine? since a few guys here are also avoiding 1,3. I have focus xt and syn-30 but i always loved evodiamine
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    Out of the two you've listed I would go with maximize. Muscle marinade tastes horrible IMO. But outside of those two I would go with APS Mesomorph.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rulk22 View Post
    Primordial's GPLC, Creapure creatine, Beta-Alanine and perhaps 5 dollar bottle of caffeine pills.
    you stealing my notes, actually you are a rep so go figures

    the above is decent, im using con-cret now which i love, and got aps cn on the way...ill put the 3 (gplc) up against each other with regards to body comp
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    do i get a good amount of gplc in each PP package?
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    gplc is expensive, pretty much $2 per workout across the board....like pp's version....i know someone has it in bulk powder, may be a better deal, but it might taste nasty
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    right now if you use youngotti25 will save you 25% off an order at ********************** which in turn makes n2kts about $31.50 shipped

    the above mentioned, i haven't taken maximize but heard it's crazy good.....muscale marinade well to say i was less than impressed would be an understatement, the taste was horrific, at first not bad, after a week or so i dreaded drinking it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Young Gotti View Post
    right now if you use youngotti25 will save you 25% off an order at ********************** which in turn makes n2kts about $31.50 shipped

    the above mentioned, i haven't taken maximize but heard it's crazy good.....muscale marinade well to say i was less than impressed would be an understatement, the taste was horrific, at first not bad, after a week or so i dreaded drinking it
    maximize was very solid for me.I can't wait to compare it to n2kts
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