TO ALL REPS - 1 SUPP ON A CUT!!!!!!!!!
- 03-02-2011, 03:34 PM
TO ALL REPS - 1 SUPP ON A CUT!!!!!!!!!
On a serious cut or recomp, what is the one supplement no one should be without
iv got some serious business coming up cut wise, im armed with
lots of protein like map and
creatine (aps cn, )
question is besides the stapes of bcaa and protein and mulit, whats the one supp a serious cut is missing......
I WILL BUY IT AND ADD IT TO MY ARSENAL
- 03-02-2011, 03:36 PM
Liquid Clen, cycle 2 on / 2 off throughout the cut.If my direct and cynical approach bothers you, just ignore it. I'm just saying what you need to hear ;).
- 03-02-2011, 03:43 PM
a testosterone booster like testopro. Beyond the lower cal and usually lower carb diet cutting your testosterone levels, testopro helps me with overall mood too (likely because of the raised testosterone)Animis Rep
03-02-2011, 03:50 PM
03-02-2011, 03:53 PM
Stack the TestoPro, Erase and use clen, that is a cut boys!
If my direct and cynical approach bothers you, just ignore it. I'm just saying what you need to hear ;).
03-02-2011, 05:06 PM
I'm not a rep, but Erase and/or Shred Matrix!
03-02-2011, 05:08 PM
03-02-2011, 05:39 PM
03-02-2011, 05:41 PM
i need to try this erase, its everywhere....a friend used the testopro with tcf-1 and really liked it, so did his wife
03-02-2011, 05:45 PM
03-02-2011, 05:51 PM
i trust you...you look the part, and iv seen your 'list' lol......but the second that waist of yours is replaced with a tire, things may be different
03-02-2011, 05:54 PM
03-02-2011, 05:58 PM
if itll go to canada, sure ill try it....i used anabolic pump n it hurt my stomach tho, heard good stuff bout glycobol tho....that need2slin is everywhere it seems...iv even seen some guy do a video presentation on it (sketch tho)
03-02-2011, 06:02 PM
03-02-2011, 06:04 PM
I can't comment because I have never tried an insulin/nutrient partitioner product.
You have a pretty complete listing there, should be a good cut. Only thing I personally would add is CLA and Green Tea, but I consider them staples of any cut.
03-02-2011, 06:05 PM
03-02-2011, 06:12 PM
you are definately right on the supps, imo, best used at the end when all dietary and training avenues have been exhausted, for an extra last kick
03-02-2011, 06:15 PM
03-02-2011, 06:16 PM
03-02-2011, 06:16 PM
You mean I can't just take supplements and lose/gain weight as I please, I have to eat right and train hard? Well looks like I need to do more reading...
I had a guy I played football with in college, came back from Christmas break and was 30 lbs heavier but all fat. He took dbol and said he forgot to workout, just ate a ton and drank booze everyday. What? Forgot to workout? Oh brother.
03-02-2011, 06:19 PM
obviously you hold yourself to a higher standard, we all do....
-you are never as bad as you think you are, but never as good as people say you are- imo it sums up alot of us physique wise, and keeps the pressure on to improve
good luck (just ordered a bunch of assault, i told you i trust you lol)
03-02-2011, 06:24 PM
03-02-2011, 06:26 PM
True - but when you've competed at the top you have to be, or you get crushed and left behind, especially when you survive off it (my cycling days and habits have not completely left me). Regardless, in everything, you are your own harshest critic, and I'll be honest when I say that I generally only see the flaws and what I hate and has to be improved. However, the next time I go below 10% bodyfat I am going to damn well stay there, just get leaner and leaner and try my best to maintain that leanness at ~8% bodyfat - I am done building more mass on my frame and will be content to just maintain leanness (i just want that upper body mass to stay and not be sacrificed as I lean out for this competition, even as I want to lose ALL the lower body mass I gained!)
Assault is definitely an awesome product! Gets me through the tough times - to be able to do that without loads of stims is a small miracle in itself!
03-02-2011, 06:28 PM
03-02-2011, 06:36 PM
03-02-2011, 07:11 PM
03-02-2011, 07:40 PM
03-02-2011, 08:16 PM
i know its apples and oranges, but for my goals, the products would serve the same purpose.....its a planned 8wk attack give or take, id even do 1month erase 1 month form, stacked with the other stuff
the goal is to really tighten **** up (im coming off a canadian winter so.....)and may-ish plan to cycle before the summer, i like being in very good conditioning, the 10% range, 12 max, before i touch anything.....im 15% give or take now
03-02-2011, 08:24 PM
The amazing part is Lentaron I.M. Depot® use to be available in the USA, but the government removed it because it was "too anabolic" and it put on muscle. ************ FORMA-STANOZOLOL is the EXACT compound found in Lentaron I.M. Depot® and we've attained it due to the current legal loopholes in America. What else have we done? We have enhanced its effects by adding
7,8 - Benzoflavone (99%) 25mg
Horse Chestnut seed extract 8mg
Because of the formatane and now added compounds Its anabolic/androgen effects are similar to that of the steroid Primobolan Depot. It also increases IGF-1 levels by an amazing 26%. It also increases HPTA activity and testicular activity similar to a combination of HCG and Clomid!
All of this is backed up by " human" studies. Yes Real human studies don by well known Universities and agencies. Because for the longest time Lentaron I.M. Depot® was a proscrition drug . This was not a drug that got scrapped because it did not work or because other drugs worked better. No this drug lost favor because many years ago the only way to use the drug was through injections. But because of the advancements in Trans dermal delivery Lentaron I.M. Depot® is back. With the help of **** and ************ its more powerful then ever.
Now you cn understand why I will recommend this to be a part of any and every cycle from this day forward. Whether it's to keep your estrogen under control, prevent deca and tren libido [rpblems or to simply create an environment that is more anabolic and beneficial for muscular gains and fat loss.
Its now a fact! The science and studies prove FORMA-STANOZOLOL works better then current prescription aromatase inhibitors on the market (such as Arimidex, Femara, Aromasin, Cytadren, etc.) but at a FRACTION OF THE COST! If one wanted to prevent prolactin,estrogen,progesteron e induced gyno and or cycle side effects they may need 2-3 and some times 4 different drugs. Of course each one of these drugs comes with its own set of negative side effects. Some Ai's raise SHBG, some lower IGF-1 and almost all of them leave you feeling weak and brittle.
FORMA-STANOZOLOL decreases SHBG 34% thus increasing androgen activity, which basically makes androgens/steroids in your systems MORE effective WITHOUT any increase in dosage. FORMA-STANOZOLOL Increases IGF-1 levels by a whopping 26% In doing so creates the perfect anabolic muscle building environment on cycle, off cycle and during pct.
FORMA-STANOZOLOL Decreases the number of progesterone receptors (inhibits the trenbolone and “deca-****” type side effects and increases fat loss. Through "clinical studies its been proven to lower progesterone. Effect of 4-Hydroxyandrostenedione on Murine Leydig Tumor Cell Steroidogenesis -- Zimniski et al. 51 (14): 3663 -- Cancer Research
Effect of 4-hydroxyandrostenedione on murine Leydig tumor cell steroidogenesis.
Zimniski SJ, Brandt ME, Melner MH, Brodie AM, Puett D.
Department of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology, University of Miami School of Medicine, Florida 33101.
The murine Leydig cell tumor (M5480A) possesses high levels of estrogen receptor and is known to produce estrogens. In these studies we examined the effects of the potent aromatase inhibitor 4-hydroxyandrostenedione (4-OHA) on Leydig tumor cell steroidogenesis both in vitro and in vivo. The addition of 4-OHA to Leydig tumor cells in primary culture resulted in a dose- and a time-dependent decrease in media progesterone levels. The observed decrease was most likely due to impaired synthesis of progesterone, inasmuch as no alteration in progesterone metabolism was seen when progesterone levels were diminishing. However, 4-OHA inhibited progesterone conversion to testosterone following 1 h of incubation, but this effect disappeared coincident with 4-OHA metabolism. Analysis of pregnenolone production revealed a biphasic dose-dependent effect of 4-OHA. At low doses (0.01-0.1 microM), 4-OHA was found to decrease pregnenolone concentrations, while at higher doses (1-10 microM) pregnenolone levels were elevated. Therefore, the actions of 4-OHA on Leydig cell steroidogenesis in vitro appear to be multifocal. Other experiments were performed to evaluate the effects of 4-OHA on tumor-bearing male mice in vivo. In these studies, the predominant effects of 4-OHA were to act as an aromatase inhibitor and to inhibit progesterone production. Thus, while 4-OHA is a potent aromatase inhibitor, we have found that this compound may alter steroidogenesis in Leydig tumor cells at several sites prior to aromatization.
PMID: 2065323 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
Aromatase inhibition: 4-hydroxyandrostenedione (4-OHA, CGP 32349) in advanced prostatic cancer.
Comparison of the pharmacokinetics and pharmacodyn... [Cancer Chemother Pharmacol. 1990] - PubMed result
Biochemistry and function of sterols - Google Books
Pharmacokinetics of 4-hydroxyandrostenedione in ma... [J Steroid Biochem Mol Biol. 1993] - PubMed result
03-02-2011, 08:32 PM
BODY PERFORMANCE SOLUTIONS REP
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03-02-2011, 09:33 PM
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03-02-2011, 09:45 PM
03-02-2011, 09:50 PM
03-02-2011, 09:58 PM
Get on that Formastanzol to tighten up bro...
If you're looking for some power in your arsenal without resorting to a full PH or DS formastanzol is a steroidal AI and you will definitely see results with it almost instantly in physique and strength. Can't say you'll see instant results with proteins and bcaa's lol.
Need2slin is also great for cutting but I personally can't run any sort of stack with something anabolic in there to make the stack worthwhile. Formastanzol is my base to any lighter natty type stacks I put together to really add some anabolism.
03-02-2011, 09:59 PM
You've definitely got a pretty nice list. What type of diet are you going to be following on it? I think a nutrient repartitioner would definitely aid in your goals. I use them all the time cause I've just been carb sensitive, but they're fantastic for keto refeeds and cheat meals in particular (wouldn't dare take in 150g of carbs in one sitting without one now).
CLA and EGCg can definitely benefit, but for me, they've always been minor help. I'd save the money for other things (just my opinion).
Psalm 34:10 - "The lions may grow weak and hungry, but those who seek the Lord lack no good thing."
EvoMuse Rep | Inspire to Evolve
03-02-2011, 10:58 PM
03-02-2011, 11:47 PM
Clen is some potent stuff, pretty much the best(besides DNP and T3) but ive found anti-cortisol to really help as well. x-lean if you dose higher is sick. Im about to try erase for myself after reading all these review as it should help with cortisol or even some basic 7-keto would be beneficial on this front.
CELTIC LABS REP
03-03-2011, 12:08 AM
Erase would be a great addition it's great for drying out, but I must say Forma-Stanozol looks very impressive.
The CN your using should work great with your stack
Core Nutritionals Representative
03-03-2011, 01:04 PM
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