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  1.  02-24-2011  11:05 AM
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    Pre Workout with a ph in it? Experienced AMer's chime in...


    I came across a pre workout drink on an online store the other da. Among the stims and creatine there was also 30 mg's of max lmg listed in the ingredients.

    Now I am wondering what the point of this is?

    If it is only taken pre-workout wouldnt that make it more like a pulse? Figuring most people workout 4 days a week....But at 30 mg's wouldnt that be underdosed, would you see any effects from 30 mgs 4 days a week? On the otherhand lmg does produce wet gains so water retention may make you appear bigger even though, as a ph cycle, it would appear underdosed...Even still I would expect some level of shutdown and I would expect you would have to run a pct.

    Anyway I was wondering WTH the point of this would be? People with ph experience please chime in.



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    It's worthless. And I wouldn't trust a company that sold a product like that.
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    Whats the preworkout? I take Methyl Mass and it has Propadrol in it
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    lol-there used to be a preworkout that had sd in it, for real!!! but i bet it is an old label that the site hasn't updated-this happens a lot. contact the site by phone or e-mail and confirm.

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    Its Double Dragon Labs and the supp is called "Juiced." It just seems pointless if not a little reckless to have a ph in it. Thanks for the responses though.

    As far as propadrol goes, isnt that like H-drol? How do you like methyl mass?

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    Originally Posted by jeanlolonnais View Post
    Its Double Dragon Labs and the supp is called "Juiced." It just seems pointless if not a little reckless to have a ph in it. Thanks for the responses though.

    As far as propadrol goes, isnt that like H-drol? How do you like methyl mass?
    I love Methyl Mass, its a great preworkout. Great taste, Good pumps, noticable strength gains, and not a lot of jitters. Propadrol can be taken longer than H-drol but doesn't have as good results.
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    Originally Posted by Boagrius View Post
    Whats the preworkout? I take Methyl Mass and it has Propadrol in it
    iirc the propadrol in MM is just the AI not the ph

    edit: yeah Im right

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    Originally Posted by jeanlolonnais View Post
    Its Double Dragon Labs and the supp is called "Juiced." It just seems pointless if not a little reckless to have a ph in it. Thanks for the responses though.
    It is reckless, considering that if the weight isnt perfect, you could take a scoop and have a whole lot more of the ph than your body can handle.

    Wouldn't want to even have to worry about that.

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    my local shop sells alot of juiced. i dont see the big deal. if u want a ph, u will find a better ph than whats in juiced and a better pre workout.
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    anyone remember the original Ultimate Orange? I took that for probably a year with a little break here and there. Had no idea it had a ph in it. I got swole ass hell. Wonder what damage i've done to myself....

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    Originally Posted by yoshi5674 View Post
    anyone remember the original Ultimate Orange? I took that for probably a year with a little break here and there. Had no idea it had a ph in it. I got swole ass hell. Wonder what damage i've done to myself....
    those were the days. THere I was a 16 year old kid drinking that stuff

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    Originally Posted by bigbeef View Post
    those were the days. THere I was a 16 year old kid drinking that stuff
    what ph was in it?
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    yea hey guys i have been wanting to ask about double dragon company i was loking into a product they have called win-50.does anybody know anything about this company?

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    Originally Posted by benjiman View Post
    yea hey guys i have been wanting to ask about double dragon company i was loking into a product they have called win-50.does anybody know anything about this company?
    I took SOS 500 from them and it was legit. I saw a lot of strength and mass.
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    if you guys have a pre workout product with a ph in it, and dont want it, feel free to send it to me!

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    Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    if you guys have a pre workout product with a ph in it, and dont want it, feel free to send it to me!

    Well J care to chime in on your thoughts on the usefullness of this product? How would you use it? What kind of pct would you run?

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    It would depend on the compound it contained.

    I would use it in conjunction with a cycle already containing w/e compound was in it, and possibly some other compound.

    people knock it, but I think it could be very useful in a cycle despite the varying dosage you would get.

    pct would be the same as with any other cycle I run. clomid and other stuff.

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    So are these the tainted supplements that some baseball / football players get busted for?

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    Hot Stuff had a PH in it?? I too remember drinking that stuff back in the days. A buddy of mine mixed his w/ SoCo! Crazy stuff.
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    Originally Posted by enhanced View Post
    Hot Stuff had a PH in it?? I too remember drinking that stuff back in the days. A buddy of mine mixed his w/ SoCo! Crazy stuff.
    The original hotstuff was serious, just plain beastly.

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    Originally Posted by ntornado View Post
    So are these the tainted supplements that some baseball / football players get busted for?
    tainted supplements. ha ha ha ha.

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