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    New study on Testofen


    New study out showing its positive effects on libido and testosterone.

    “It was concluded that Testofen demonstrated a significant positive effect on physiological aspects of libido and may assist to maintain normal healthy testosterone levels.”

    Our Phyto-teststerone includes the 800mg/serving… even more than the study used!
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    LOL why isn't this in the TRS then?
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    I have been using Fenugreek in my PCT's for years, the stuff is amazing, and Testofen found in Phyto Testosterone is the best and highest quality I have used yet. Combined with the TRS it is simply fantastic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryansm View Post
    Combined with the TRS it is simply fantastic.
    I was actually slightly kidding since the TRS is considered to be very complete. So you feel this would be a good addition to TRS?
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    Testofen is certainly beneficial. Many products contain fenugreek, but Testofen is the only 50% Fenuside product, make sure you are getting the real deal.
    Just inject.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeswimlive View Post
    I was actually slightly kidding since the TRS is considered to be very complete. So you feel this would be a good addition to TRS?
    Yes I do, I will never do a PCT without it

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    Does it include prolactin levels as well or no?

    Thanks for posting it up
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    Quote Originally Posted by VaughnTrue View Post
    Does it include prolactin levels as well or no?

    Thanks for posting it up
    Serum prolactin remained in reference range.
    Just inject.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    Serum prolactin remained in reference range.
    So did testosterone....so I'm not sure why your op states testosterone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Royd The Noyd View Post
    So did testosterone....so I'm not sure why your op states testosterone?
    They do mention an increase in Free Test:

    An unpublished randomized double blind study, by
    Gencor Pacific, on the same extract demonstrated that it
    had a positive effect on anabolic activity (as evidenced
    by BUN reduction) as well as significant increase in free
    testosterone and creatinine, compared with placebo, in a
    group of healthy exercising males
    This supports
    a previous unpublished animal study, by SL Bodhankar,
    of the same standardized extract demonstrating an
    increased aphrodisiac activity and increased serum
    testosterone levels.
    However, the benefit that Testofen products have always been praised for is the ability to mimic the effects of testosterone (Increased Libido, Strength, Energy, Well Being) without causing any suppression of Testosterone levels.
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    i've been having good results with some bulk.

    is there a difference between testofen and fenuside extracts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by freefall365 View Post
    i've been having good results with some bulk.

    is there a difference between testofen and fenuside extracts?
    Testofen is a patented 50% fenuside extract. It would depend on your extract and quality.
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    I remember using standard fenugreek in my pct's, ramping up the doses, wound up taking 12 caps a day or something crazy like that, once I started using fenugreek extracts, much easier and better results. Pct is a good place for it, I had taken scivation's old product, worked well as part of a natty stack, then lately I've used phyto test. Honestly though you need to run it for 2 months in order to really notice anything, I'd recommend starting it the last 2-3 weeks of a cycle, then dosing for 2 months, that way when the SERM is tapered off, the fenusides will be kicking in big time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Royd The Noyd View Post
    So did testosterone....so I'm not sure why your op states testosterone?
    It increases test within normal levels, which in PCT when these levels are low it is ideal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freefall365 View Post
    i've been having good results with some bulk.

    is there a difference between testofen and fenuside extracts?
    Problem with bulk is it is not as pure, which could increase possible sides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    They do mention an increase in Free Test:





    However, the benefit that Testofen products have always been praised for is the ability to mimic the effects of testosterone (Increased Libido, Strength, Energy, Well Being) without causing any suppression of Testosterone levels.
    They mention it to a reference as a past studies. They did not actually find the same in this study.

    Your second point, I agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryansm View Post
    It increases test within normal levels, which in PCT when these levels are low it is ideal.
    What does that mean?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Royd The Noyd View Post
    What does that mean?
    I think he is referring to testofen not raising test to supraphysiologic levels, just increasing it while maintaining it in normal reference range.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryansm View Post
    Problem with bulk is it is not as pure, which could increase possible sides.
    why would bulk be not as pure if it is an extract?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HATEFULone View Post
    I think he is referring to testofen not raising test to supraphysiologic levels, just increasing it while maintaining it in normal reference range.
    Yes, thank you should have been more clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freefall365 View Post
    why would bulk be not as pure if it is an extract?
    From my understanding it is the purity of the extract that is of concern.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freefall365 View Post
    why would bulk be not as pure if it is an extract?
    Raw material quality is one of the reasons different brands with the same ingredients don't yield the same quality of results. It's why people can say that one brand of fenugreek is different than another. It's often a reason why some companies can sell cheap supplements and others sell more expensive ones. I'll try to dig up a video on this, it explains it pretty well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBlackGuy View Post
    Raw material quality is one of the reasons different brands with the same ingredients don't yield the same quality of results. It's why people can say that one brand of fenugreek is different than another. It's often a reason why some companies can sell cheap supplements and others sell more expensive ones. I'll try to dig up a video on this, it explains it pretty well.
    cool, i'd love to see it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by freefall365 View Post
    cool, i'd love to see it.
    Freefall, think 'Creapure' vs. 'Creatine mono'
    Just inject.
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    Quote Originally Posted by freefall365 View Post
    cool, i'd love to see it.
    http://www.youtube.com/user/willbrin.../5/EWBjpjiNtLM

    This should be the one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryansm View Post
    New study out showing its positive effects on libido and testosterone.

    “It was concluded that Testofen demonstrated a significant positive effect on physiological aspects of libido and may assist to maintain normal healthy testosterone levels.”

    Our Phyto-teststerone includes the 800mg/serving… even more than the study used!
    lol yah I didn't need a study for that one .... stuff makes me randy as a goat...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    lol yah I didn't need a study for that one .... stuff makes me randy as a goat...
    Sure does, stacked with DAA and watch out...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryansm View Post
    Sure does, stacked with DAA and watch out...
    Yah I ran Testopro and DAA and it was nuts for libido.. great for PCT...
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    I've ran just plain old Fenugreek and also Testofen(bulk Powder). The stronger testofen product did nothing, while the regular fenugreek seed product was great. HatefulOne, why do you say you need to run it for two months to notice anything?. I've read to run fenugreek for only around 3 weeks because after that point the effects wear off. It works almost immediately, within 2-3 days of your first dose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    I've ran just plain old Fenugreek and also Testofen(bulk Powder). The stronger testofen product did nothing, while the regular fenugreek seed product was great.
    you are the 1st i have heard say that, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    you are the 1st i have heard say that, lol.
    But id does kick in right away, that's true....
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    I've ran just plain old Fenugreek and also Testofen(bulk Powder). The stronger testofen product did nothing, while the regular fenugreek seed product was great. HatefulOne, why do you say you need to run it for two months to notice anything?. I've read to run fenugreek for only around 3 weeks because after that point the effects wear off. It works almost immediately, within 2-3 days of your first dose.
    I would agree with BigT. Where did you get your Testofen from? Stating that the bulk form of a herb performed better than the extract version appears to be a quality issue with the extract.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    I would agree with BigT. Where did you get your Testofen from? Stating that the bulk form of a herb performed better than the extract version appears to be a quality issue with the extract.
    It was from bulk Nutrition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    It was from bulk Nutrition.
    Well they don't appear to have it now, and 1Fast400 did just have another issue with product quality, so I wouldn't bet that what you had was actually testofen.
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    This was a good 3-4 years ago though.
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    Titanium by Athletix contains: 850mg Fenugreek 50% Fenuside (compare to Testofen). something to consider. as well as 800mg LCLT and 200 mg I3C!!!!
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    I like Titanium myself...good product.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lpfleiderer View Post
    Titanium by Athletix contains: 850mg Fenugreek 50% Fenuside (compare to Testofen). something to consider. as well as 800mg LCLT and 200 mg I3C!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by lpfleiderer View Post
    Titanium by Athletix contains: 850mg Fenugreek 50% Fenuside (compare to Testofen). something to consider. as well as 800mg LCLT and 200 mg I3C!!!!
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