Alpha T2 Vs Shift

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    Alpha T2 Vs Shift


    obviously both Alpha T2 and Shift are both PES products and both contain 150 mcg's of 3,3-diiodo-l-thyronine (3,3'-T2). My question is how much more effective do you think Alpha T2 is over shift, as Alpha T2 has Methyl-Synephrine and Rauwolscine in addition to the 3,3? (perhaps i should have made this thread in the PES form, sorry).

    i guess i should probably add that im asking because Alpha T2 is twice the cost of shift and i plan on stacking one of these two products with Oxy Elite Pro. i know Alpha T2 and Oxy Elite Pro have some great reviews when stacked but do you think it would really be that much more superior to a Shift+Oxy Elite Pro stack?

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    The Alpha-T2 would obviously be more effective as a standalone product. That being said, I picked up a bunch of shift to use in a stack (ie. with HEAT).
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    I believe shift is intended for those who are taking time off stims or sensitive to stims.
    Also can be added before bed to increase fat burning at night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heebs10 View Post
    obviously both Alpha T2 and Shift are both PES products and both contain 150 mcg's of 3,3-diiodo-l-thyronine (3,3'-T2). My question is how much more effective do you think Alpha T2 is over shift, as Alpha T2 has Methyl-Synephrine and Rauwolscine in addition to the 3,3? (perhaps i should have made this thread in the PES form, sorry).

    i guess i should probably add that im asking because Alpha T2 is twice the cost of shift and i plan on stacking one of these two products with Oxy Elite Pro. i know Alpha T2 and Oxy Elite Pro have some great reviews when stacked but do you think it would really be that much more superior to a Shift+Oxy Elite Pro stack?
    As far as effectiveness, Alpha-T2 will be more effective because of the stimulants. However, not everyone can handle stimulants very well - which is why Shift was created.


    Quote Originally Posted by mmacrazy View Post
    I believe shift is intended for those who are taking time off stims or sensitive to stims.
    Also can be added before bed to increase fat burning at night.
    ^^^THIS.

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    good points thus far, thanks fellas (and ladies). can anyone vouch for Alpha being significantly superior to Shift or can anyone vouch for the effectivness of Methyl-Synephrine and/or Rauwolscine as i dont have much experience with either?

    i know Alpha's additional stims will improve results, im just curious as to by how much. i know this is kinda like splitting hairs but im only curious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heebs10 View Post
    good points thus far, thanks fellas. can anyone vouch for Alpha being significantly superior to Shift or can anyone vouch for the effectivness of Methyl-Synephrine and/or Rauwolscine as i dont have much experience with either?
    Josh can tell you re Alpha-T2 versus Shift.

    As far as the others, they are in many products - surely you have used something with them in. Either way, they are effective, and Josh would NOT put them in a product if they were not!

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    All I can say is alpha is amazing ! Added to an ec stack and erase and the results with a clean diet are insane !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosie Chee Scott View Post
    Josh can tell you re Alpha-T2 versus Shift.

    As far as the others, they are in many products - surely you have used something with them in. Either way, they are effective, and Josh would NOT put them in a product if they were not!

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    thanks Rosie, i actually have a few free samples of other products that contain methyl syn its just hard to tell whats doing what when its blended with other stims. i know PES only uses quality ingredients, i have yet to see a bad review for any of their products. i just im being picky lol.

    i wish the 3 bottles of Alpha T2 for $20 each special was still going on as i was thinking about getting a few bottles anyways.
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    I hate stimulant fat/loss energy products. So I am happy about shift. Now I can use a fat loss product and not feel like I'm on crack or my heart is going to explode!. To me, taking stimulants does more harm than good, especially before exercise.
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    I think it is time to start a good thread on SHIFT....brb


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    Quote Originally Posted by mmacrazy View Post
    All I can say is alpha is amazing ! Added to an ec stack and erase and the results with a clean diet are insane !
    YES! Add Shred Matrix and your staples and you're set!


    Quote Originally Posted by heebs10 View Post
    thanks Rosie, i actually have a few free samples of other products that contain methyl syn its just hard to tell whats doing what when its blended with other stims. i know PES only uses quality ingredients, i have yet to see a bad review for any of their products. i just im being picky lol.
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    i am excited to add shift to my bedtime dose of erase.


    the weird thing i noticed when i 1st started taking at-2 so many months ago was the improved sleep, even though it contains mild stims. i am hopeful that shift minus the stim will be even better at improving sleep when taken before bed-can't wait to try it.


    anyone else notice improved sleep from at-2? not talking about taking it close to bedtime, lol.
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    when i come of clenbuterol im going to use shift for sure
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    Totally agree with you mate. Im taking 2x AT-2 in the morning and 1x AT-2 in the arvo and am noticing much better sleep. More so the quality of sleep is better. Add melatonin before bed also and sleep is really deep!

    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    i am excited to add shift to my bedtime dose of erase.


    the weird thing i noticed when i 1st started taking at-2 so many months ago was the improved sleep, even though it contains mild stims. i am hopeful that shift minus the stim will be even better at improving sleep when taken before bed-can't wait to try it.


    anyone else notice improved sleep from at-2? not talking about taking it close to bedtime, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    I hate stimulant fat/loss energy products. So I am happy about shift. Now I can use a fat loss product and not feel like I'm on crack or my heart is going to explode!. To me, taking stimulants does more harm than good, especially before exercise.
    Agee. Ive taking allsorts from eca to those dodgey ALRI hyperdrives, all send me into the clouds but very little benefit. The only time i got real fat loss results was from intermittend fasting along side some Forza 250 HCL 30mg XLR8 MAX
  

  
 

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