looking for a product similar to SAN fierce...

  1. looking for a product similar to SAN fierce...

    I don't know if anyone remembers fierce. They don't make it anymore. I don't know what exactly it was about it. I don't think it was anything special "on paper" so to speak. But back when they still made this stuff I had tried basically every creatine blend type product there was out, and this stuff was flat out the best pre workout I've ever tried. The workouts on it were just ridiculous.

    I'm really not up anymore and in the know on all the new pre workout and creatine blends out now, but does anyone know of something that's very similar to what fierce used to be?

    This is a breakdown of basically what fierce was that I copy and pasted:

    Calories 0 0%
    Calories from Fat 0 0%
    Sugars 0 g 0%
    Cell Hydration Matrix 4.0 g †
    (Dicreatine-Malate, Creatine-Malate, Creatine-Ethyl-Ester HCI)
    Neuro Substrates 3.8 g †
    (L-Taurine, N-Acetyl-L-Glutamine, L-Tyrosine & Caffeine Anhydrous)
    Creatine AssimilatorTM 2.5 g †
    (Betaine Anhydrous & Glycocyamine, Guanidinopropionic Acid (3-GPA™)
    DuralastTM Matrix 2.4 g †
    (Glucuronolactone & L-Aspartic Acid, b-Alanine)
    Nitro NO 2.25 g †
    (L-Arginine-Alpha-Ketoglutarate & L-Ornithine Alpha-Ketoglutarate)

    edit: maybe they DO still make this? Last time I went to order it from somewhere it said "this product has been discontinued by the manufacturer" and I guess I never really kept an eye on it after that

  2. they still make fierce, it was recently revamped, and they've added in creatine nitrate and removed cee hcl.

    a similar product would be mesomorph by aps.

  3. was thining of trying this product, how is it on stims? I dont like a stim heavy product, it doesnt look too bad, but op what was your take? too many stims make me have bad workouts, no focus, breathing messed up, etc.

  4. Didn't MAN just come out with a new pre-workout called game day or something like that? APS Meso looks to be the best option though it is strong on the stims I hear.
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