Best available Aromatase Inhibitor (AI)?

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    Best available Aromatase Inhibitor (AI)?


    I am looking for the best AI out there right now. I have read multiple threads on this subject but they all seem to be old enough where the products they recommend are no longer for sale anywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyBoy5885 View Post
    I am looking for the best AI out there right now. I have read multiple threads on this subject but they all seem to be old enough where the products they recommend are no longer for sale anywhere.
    Depends whether you're looking for - a hormonal or natural AI.

    For example, hormonal:
    * 6-Bromo
    * 6-oxo
    * Formestane
    * ATD

    For example, natural:
    * Erase
    * Triazole
    * T-911
    * Sustain Alpha

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    Depending on what you are looking for, you might be interested in know that Formestane is back in stock! Limited left, but a great grab
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    11oxo ai? hmm
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    Triazole been gettin some really good reviews latley, that would definitly be worth looking into, very solid products with blood works to prove it. Also Hard FX has a pretty good AI effect with a solid dose of 7-methoxyisoflavone, but its more of an overall testosterone booster.
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    i thought 6 oxo was natrual??
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    Quote Originally Posted by giantbrandon View Post
    i thought 6 oxo was natrual??
    Androstenetrione (4-androstene- 3,6,17-trione; androst-4- ene-3,6,17-trione), also known as 6-OXO, is a suicidal inhibitor of the enzyme aromatase. Aromatase is the enzyme responsible for the conversion of androgens such as testosterone to estrogens. Inhibition of this enzyme generally results in a lower production of estrogen, and because testosterone is a precursor to estrogen, this signals the body to produce more testosterone as a substrate for estrogen production in an attempt to bring estrogen levels back to normal. 6-OXO was one of the earliest discovered aromatase inhibitors, and it has been demonstrated to significantly increase testosterone levels without short-term adverse effects.

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    i remember PA saying that he was trying to get 6 oxo passed as a natrual supp?
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    Formestane. More specificall, topical formestane by Competitive Edge Labs. While there are other things that will probably work, I know this does. I've seen it used with some pretty harsh stuff.
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    Exemestane. Little to no effect on lipids, controls and lowers SHBG, controls E2. What more could you ask for from an ai? Perhaps a cheaper price tag, but that's about it.
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    I love Primordial Performance's Formestane. I really want to try Triazole. Really liking the feedback on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Manback View Post
    Exemestane. Little to no effect on lipids, controls and lowers SHBG, controls E2. What more could you ask for from an ai? Perhaps a cheaper price tag, but that's about it.
    No ****! Lol what is it with the price of exemestane compared to other ancillary medications from the same source.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoneDaddy View Post
    ...I really want to try Triazole. Really liking the feedback on it.
    Triazole is a good product - probably the strongest natural AI that I have used (if I am going to go re effect on joints). You can review my experience with it at Completing the Female Terminator's REMODEL with TRIAZOLE (and other Goodies).

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoneDaddy View Post
    I love Primordial Performance's Formestane. I really want to try Triazole. Really liking the feedback on it.
    The feedback for it has been excellent. At the risk of sounding ****y, we knew it would! Thats what happens when you study and test the design over an entire year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosie Chee Scott View Post
    Depends whether you're looking for - a hormonal or natural AI.

    For example, hormonal:
    * 6-Bromo
    * 6-oxo
    * Formestane
    * ATD

    For example, natural:
    * Erase
    * Triazole
    * T-911
    * Sustain Alpha

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    Quoted for emphasis. Erase is very powerful considering it's OTC. Formestane is always great because it can give you somewhat of an "on".
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyBoy5885 View Post
    I am looking for the best AI out there right now. I have read multiple threads on this subject but they all seem to be old enough where the products they recommend are no longer for sale anywhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
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    bahahaha. i like erase. sustain alpha, IMO, is a great product all around also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosie Chee Scott View Post
    Depends whether you're looking for - a hormonal or natural AI.

    For example, hormonal:
    * 6-Bromo
    * 6-oxo
    * Formestane
    * ATD

    For example, natural:
    * Erase
    * Triazole
    * T-911
    * Sustain Alpha

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    I don't understand this distinction, at all. Right off the bat, T-911 is a terrible supp that does nothing, so get rid of that. Sustain alpha is resveratrol, which is a limited AI with some SERM properties - Probably good for a test boost but I wouldn't trust it at all with real AI duties of gyno prevention and checking estrogen rebound. Triazole is a good T-booster, but how much of it is due to AI activity? We don't really know. Again, wouldn't trust it with AI duty post cycle, for instance.

    Erase, while natural (DEA compliance!) is really not any different than the hormonals you listed - Androst-3,5-dien-7,17-dione is the formula for erase, looks hormonal to me.



    Now that we have the bad information out of the way, we can discuss the one thing that really matters in an AI - strength. Everyone knows letrozole is the absolute worst about taking estrogen levels to zero, which plays havoc with lots of health parameters. I find that 6-bromo also has a very very low stabilization level and must be dosed carefully.

    ATD binds to estrogen receptors in the brain and can harm libido and should be disqualified.

    6-oxo was similar to ERASE, both of which have good profiles for lowering E without cratering it. Formestane is probably more anabolic than any of these, and also shows activity increasing IGF-1.

    6-bromo is the strongest OTC aromatase inhibitor and is quite cheap. For PCT/on cycle duty that you can set and forget, I'll take Erase. For a standalone, formestane will be the most anabolic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OnTheRoadTo View Post
    I don't understand this distinction, at all. Right off the bat, T-911 is a terrible supp that does nothing, so get rid of that. Sustain alpha is resveratrol, which is a limited AI with some SERM properties - Probably good for a test boost but I wouldn't trust it at all with real AI duties of gyno prevention and checking estrogen rebound. Triazole is a good T-booster, but how much of it is due to AI activity? We don't really know. Again, wouldn't trust it with AI duty post cycle, for instance.

    Erase, while natural (DEA compliance!) is really not any different than the hormonals you listed - Androst-3,5-dien-7,17-dione is the formula for erase, looks hormonal to me.



    Now that we have the bad information out of the way, we can discuss the one thing that really matters in an AI - strength. Everyone knows letrozole is the absolute worst about taking estrogen levels to zero, which plays havoc with lots of health parameters. I find that 6-bromo also has a very very low stabilization level and must be dosed carefully.

    ATD binds to estrogen receptors in the brain and can harm libido and should be disqualified.

    6-oxo was similar to ERASE, both of which have good profiles for lowering E without cratering it. Formestane is probably more anabolic than any of these, and also shows activity increasing IGF-1.

    6-bromo is the strongest OTC aromatase inhibitor and is quite cheap. For PCT/on cycle duty that you can set and forget, I'll take Erase. For a standalone, formestane will be the most anabolic.
    There's not much to understand - I was simply giving examples of different AIs and products with AI properties, hormonal and natural. Whether you agree with my examples or not is irrelevant. As far as your opinion on the examples I gave - it is just that: An opinion, and no one is going to share the same one.

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    I'm just saying it isn't a good metric with which to evaluate an aromatase inhibitor - "natural" tends to carry connotations of safety and weakness, but that isn't necessarily the case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by andrew732 View Post
    Research chem: Exemestane (Aromasin)
    I'd avoid leaving exemestane dosage to a research chem, it can easily be found.
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    I like CEL Formestane.

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