Do think the new stuff REALLY makes that much of a difference and is properly dosed? Yes I have seen the studies, so spare me the typical avant list of pub-med abstracts.
I think most avant reformulations have just been an attempt to boost sales while the core ingredients have remained the same. They are good products, but I don't think the changes make a difference. A longer ingredient list makes a product sell better, though not necessarily work better. Releasing a new version will also create a sales spike. Lets face it, avant is a company - better than most - but like any other company it wants to make money. These additions are indeed "filler" for the ingredients list. I think the fact that the amount of each ingredient is not printed on the bottle helps my theory, it is impossible to know if each ingredient is correctly dosed.
Leptigen for instance contains "Proprietary Blend of the following ingredients:Galactose, BCAA's, IP6, Betaine HCl, glucosamine HCl, Glutamine, creatine pyruvate, Lecithin, sodium acetate, histadine, arginine, Leucine, Taurine, Magnesium citrate, calcium lactate, n-acetyl-glucosamine, vitamine E acetate, l-carnitine, inositol, Glycine, salt (iodized, K+) calcium pantothenate, Proline, n-acetyl-tyrosine, vitamin C with ascorbate, GABA, simmondsin, 5-HTP, alpha lipoic acid, synephrine, Zinc, folic acid 10% with tmg, giotin 1%, selenomethionine."
Why not release how much of each? Probably because some are underdosed and are just there to extend the ingredients list. Joe Consumer thinks the more stuff in it, the better the product. Companies, who are out to make money, will cater to him - even Avant. You live in a dream world if you don't think this happens. Sure all the stuff *might* work, but I doubt it all will and is properly dosed.
Lets face it, they are good products but the ingredients list is full of "fillers" to make the producs more "flashy" and help sales.
dsade I know you are a mod at Avant, aren't you an employee too? Just curious if you had a financial stake in the company. Not an ad hominem attack, but I think it makes somewhat of a difference in how I view your thoughts