Are Digestive Enzymes... really... necessary?

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  1. I have tried regular digestive enzymes (protease, amylase, lipase), papaya enzyme, and betaine HCL for digestive problems and the HCL has helped the most. Suprisingly, the cheap papaya enzyme (only 4 bucks or so at trader joe's) did just as much for me as the digestive enzymes.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Pineapple is not high-GI at all. I also have a major issue with relying on capsules when it may the synergy between the components within the fruit. Kinda like the difference between naringin vs grapefruit.
    You're right, it's only a medium GI. I wonder what I was thinking about? I see what you're getting at as far as other micro-nutrients being in the whole fruit, but if you're eating it to accomplish a specific goal (deriving an enzyme) I just thought it would be better to go straight to the cow's utter rather than hanging out with the farmer.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Outstanding View Post
    You're right, it's only a medium GI. I wonder what I was thinking about? I see what you're getting at as far as other micro-nutrients being in the whole fruit, but if you're eating it to accomplish a specific goal (deriving an enzyme) I just thought it would be better to go straight to the cow's utter rather than hanging out with the farmer.
    Haha! Sorry outstanding, I have nothing constructive to offer but that last line was pretty clever, I've never heard that before.

    However, this thread is of interest to me as I've been on the fence about purchasing some digestive enzymes. Would digestive enzymes be what I'm looking for if I'm trying to combat my horrible, horrible gas from my protein/diet?

  4. Quote Originally Posted by tbarrows View Post
    Haha! Sorry outstanding, I have nothing constructive to offer but that last line was pretty clever, I've never heard that before.

    However, this thread is of interest to me as I've been on the fence about purchasing some digestive enzymes. Would digestive enzymes be what I'm looking for if I'm trying to combat my horrible, horrible gas from my protein/diet?
    Clever you say? Man, I thought that was pretty lame actually. Thanks.

    As far as gas, I always have it - always. I never eat less than 300g of protein per day, so it's a constant challenge. I'm really not able to offer any valuable insight for the past hour or so, I've been listening to Louis CK on You Tube. I don't even know what I just typed about or if I made mistakes.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Outstanding View Post
    Clever you say? Man, I thought that was pretty lame actually. Thanks.

    As far as gas, I always have it - always. I never eat less than 300g of protein per day, so it's a constant challenge. I'm really not able to offer any valuable insight for the past hour or so, I've been listening to Louis CK on You Tube. I don't even know what I just typed about or if I made mistakes.
    Haha I saw him live 2 summers ago, he's hilarious... I actually got to see him and Bob Saget the same night on Opie and Anthony's traveling virus tour in Philly. Those two dudes are insane... but before this thread is derailed and all about comedians, if someone has suggestions about handling gas (gas-x and beano gets expensive!) I'd love to hear em.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by Outstanding View Post
    Reps coming your way. I have researched and ONLY ever seen encouraging feedback and science behind Bromelain!

    Krill Oil is also 99.9% of the way toward becoming a hallmark in my lifelong supplementation plans.

    I do not take or have an attraction toward probiotics... I should have started this thread by asking if THE FOLLOWING are of advantage and necessitated by training 20-30yr old males:

    -Protease
    -Amylase
    -Lipase
    They definitely help! Especially if ur trying to gain more muscle, so eating more food than what ur body is used to. This may cause stress on ur body and it may not be able to keep up with digestive enzymes release on its own. This is where xtra digstive help comes in. Speaking from my experience, I've felt like I'm able to digest more food and put it where it needs to go. I myself do a slice of papaya after each meal. Oh and whoever was asking, papaya doesn't really have any anti-inflammatory properties. I use it cause it's an all around digest supp.I also take a good probiotic, since I don't really eat yogurt. This also does wonders and I suggest to all if ur not eating yogurt. Heck ,enzymes and probiotics can help during cutting, helping food digestion and improving waste elimination.
    Also loose stools can be caused by the increase of bad bacteria in intestines, throwing off proper intestinal flora. In those cases probiotics can actually reduce loose stools by not allowing quick passing of food.

  7. I have digestion issues and the enzymes seem to help with emptying my stomach faster. I use NOW Digest Platinum. It is more expensive but the enzyme activity is off the charts and it has over a dozen different types and PH ranges. For example, speficic ones for specific proteins and carbs. Lipase activity is 3500 FIP, way more than most. I tried Super Enzymes but I guess the Betaine HCL jacks my stomach up bad.

  8. Reps to both of you, thanks for your thoughts!

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Outstanding View Post
    Reps to both of you, thanks for your thoughts!
    Thanks. What is confusing as heck is that plant and animal-based enzyme activity is measured with different and sometimes inconsistent units. So it's hard to compare products. If some brainiac on here could help decipher that, I would rep them every day for weeks...

  10. Quote Originally Posted by ccnAbolic View Post
    Thanks. What is confusing as heck is that plant and animal-based enzyme activity is measured with different and sometimes inconsistent units. So it's hard to compare products. If some brainiac on here could help decipher that, I would rep them every day for weeks...
    Someone make up a fake answer and earn reps galore!

  11. i find them to be quite helpful, Ive used some by NOW and will be using the Beverly product.

  12. I get diareah if I don't take them. I don't really think they help me with anabolism(maby a little) but they keep me from wearing my butthole away with constant diareah.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by kingdong View Post
    I get diareah if I don't take them. I don't really think they help me with anabolism(maby a little) but they keep me from wearing my butthole away with constant diareah.
    I seem like I always have diarreaha at least once a day... BUT I do eat a grapefruit in the morning, and that's MURDER on cleaning you out Case in point, I need to isolate what could be causing it. I consume 300g of protein daily from meals alone, not counting pre/intra workout powders and BCAAs, or Liver Tabs.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Outstanding View Post
    I seem like I always have diarreaha at least once a day... BUT I do eat a grapefruit in the morning, and that's MURDER on cleaning you out Case in point, I need to isolate what could be causing it. I consume 300g of protein daily from meals alone, not counting pre/intra workout powders and BCAAs, or Liver Tabs.
    Do you use gms?

  15. Enzymedica Digest Gold is amazing. It's pricey and I only buy it on clearance.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Ev52 View Post
    Enzymedica Digest Gold is amazing. It's pricey and I only buy it on clearance.
    You outta check out Digest Platinum by NOW. More types of enzymes, higher activity per enzyme and cheaper...

    I put in a request for Nutra to carry, btw...

  17. Quote Originally Posted by ccnAbolic View Post
    You outta check out Digest Platinum by NOW. More types of enzymes, higher activity per enzyme and cheaper...

    I put in a request for Nutra to carry, btw...
    Thanks!, I'll look into it.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Outstanding View Post
    I seem like I always have diarreaha at least once a day... BUT I do eat a grapefruit in the morning, and that's MURDER on cleaning you out Case in point, I need to isolate what could be causing it. I consume 300g of protein daily from meals alone, not counting pre/intra workout powders and BCAAs, or Liver Tabs.
    Ive been looking fo ways to cut all pill binders. I think it's helping. And don't take any mgnesium supplements with low bioavailability.

  19. Logically speaking, I think that if you were to eat outside of "normal", it would seem beneficial to supplement with digestive enzymes. For example, consuming larger meals than normal, or meals that were higher in fat. I have no scientific backing on that but it seems logical to me.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by ccnAbolic View Post
    Do you use gms?
    Not for a few years... only Veg. Glycerine on upper body days; but my symptoms persist every day, in varying degrees of severity. I do notice my stools are much more solid on days I don't have grapefruit (which seems to be a natural laxative).

  21. Quote Originally Posted by kingdong View Post
    Ive been looking fo ways to cut all pill binders. I think it's helping. And don't take any mgnesium supplements with low bioavailability.
    Interesting, why Magnesium and also why the low bio-availability concern? I too wish I could cut all binders in my daily supplement ritual (such a waste)!

  22. I would say digestive enzymes and well as systemic are a great staple.

  23. ive used them before, i liked em they help keep bloating down and probiotics/yogurt are good too, digestion is the most important part of being healthy i feel

  24. Quote Originally Posted by fadi View Post
    Can't speak for everyone. I do have digestion problems, so enzymes helps me digest better. I like Ginger root too because it is one of very few substances that speed up gastric emptying.
    There are things you will never feel if you are healthy, so you will always question the reason behind taking them. And you most likely do not need them if healthy. But if you have digestiive problems like I do, certain things help a lot. Pineapples, apples, ginger root, and digestive enzymes. However, I don take them when I am not having digestive problems.
    Do you take Ginger root in supplement form, and if so, do you take it befor or after a meal?

    Also to thread contributors, whats the consensus for best brand/version of enzymes?

  25. Just speaking for myself,

    when I take Orange TRIad (multi that includes digestive enzymes) with or without meals, I do not get heart burn - especially after a large meal. I eat alot of large meals since I'm bulking.

    The days I miss or skip Orange TRIad unintentionally, I get heart burn.

    Thats just my .02. Seems like they're worth it to me
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