No cit mal to me is lesser in a way.
If you want quality and decently priced bcaa go with IBCAA by PP, is ajipure bcaa so it mixes super well and is the highest quality, Ajipure bcaa are the highest tested bcaa on the market, also you can flavor it urself and for some reason Ajipure aminos dont taste as bad as regular BCAA and is quite easy to mask.
If you want pre-flavored aminos, id go with Purple Wraath. all your EAA's enough leucine for protein synthesis, cit mal, beta-a, ginger...all around great product, OR CORE Nutrition ABC, 10g BCAA, 5g Glutamine, 5g Beta-A, 5g Cit Mal i believe
Gave me some good suggestions to consider - thanks, Lou. Repped!
Controlled Labs redid the flavor of purple wraath, they are on V3 now i believe, the lemonade is quite good for what it is, a supplement
Well Intrabolic, what i currently use is the top of the top in terms of intra-work supplimentation. Mostly because you get 15g of Aminos, more then enough,It has whey hydrosalate (sp?) 70-80% di and tri peptides which equals that of peptopro which is 80% di and tri peptides. Also whey hydro has more studies behind and has a better amino acid profile then casien hydro. Not only that but di and tri peptides absorb faster then free form amino acids themselves, there is even some research suggesting that the di and tri peptides help free form aminos to absorb even faster! Next it has electrolytes, 3.2g of beta-alanine! almost the 4g which has soon weight gain and endurence in studies. Not only that but beta-alanine is the second most studied ingredient in sports nutrition today, second to only creatine mono. Then they have 8g of free form EAAs with high levels of leucine, 3g is needed to spike protein synthesis AND all the EAAs are needed to create the best protein synthesis response from leucine which intrabolic has. Also it say 2.5g of leucine per serving but with the whey hydro is actually 3g total. It also requires very little digestion so it reachs the muscles better, also intra-wo amino supplimentation has been shown to increase amino uptake to the target muscles up to 500% i believe. There is more but thats the basics.
The new size on is not has good as intrabolic in some regards, Its whey hydro is only 50% di and tri peptides, meaning more digestion on your part and more blood to the stomach, not what you want around/during your workout. Next it has no beta-alanine, but does have a matrix of creapure and MCC, which is a very good combo, but if you dont want 4g creatine during your workout then size on doesnt work since you cant adjust it. Also it doesnt have all you free form EAAs it only has 10g 2:1:1 ration bcaa in it for the leucine content. Still good tho. Also the LOLA is to low to matter since i believe several grams was shown to be effective at removing amonia not the 1-2g they, think more like 9g needed. Then the sustamine is to low to since it fall behind some electrolytes, and sustamine needs to be in a 3g serving to really matter. Then they have a carb blend, palantinose is an awsome carb and the main one, however it is 50% fructose and 50% glucose, you could do without the fructose intra-wo, also 38g sugar is harsh and empty calories, id save the carbs for meals but i did notice good effects from the carb version of size on and the repartioning agent works quite well actually, just got bloated from the low grade hydro, slow carbs, and creatine after awhile, the flavor was to much also.
In the end id give the nod to intrabolic for intra-wo supplementation, everything you need and nothing you dont, the flavoring of wild berry is nice too, personally if price is a factor id go with purple wraath, since its an EAA product and has a nice nootropic effect if you havent tried it, or 1 scoop intrabolic with bulk bcaa.
Hope this helped
EDIT:Also Intrabolic and all AEN products are manufactured in GMP certified facilities which are the highest quality standards in supplements, it means whats on the lable is in the bottle pretty much. Also Gaspari does not have this on their products and they had that issue with their myofusion not being 25g per scoop. Idk if this matters to you when picking a supplement but thought i would add it, Controlled Labs is GMP certified as well
wow dude thanks so much for that very informative response!! Reps to you my friend. So now it looks like it's down to intra or purple wraath... I've used intrabolic for a while, always loved it, the wild berry is delicious.. maybe it's time for something different? Or maybe if it aint broke I shouldn't be messing with it. Either way you've given me lots to think about, thanks a lot bro
Well when do you plan on using the said supplement? and if intra-wo then what is your pre-wo/intra-wo/post-wo routine???
Purple Wraath is good, If i had a choice id go with Intrabolic during the workout, purple wraath for first thing in the morning and during the day amino acid supplementation. Mostly bc purple wraath lacks one of the EAAs where intra does not. If price truely is an issue id go with purple wraath, its .555* cost per serving (bb dot come price for big tub) where intra is 1.0 cost per serving (bb dot come price).
Until knowing how you eat/supplement around your workouts i cant tell you which is better yet
Check out Trueprotein BCAA plus. Very similar to xtend forumla, potentially better.
90 servings per container
4g Ajinomoto L-Leucine
3g Ajinomoto L-Glutamine
2g Ajinomoto L-Valine
2g Ajinomoto L-Isoleucine
1g Citrulline Malate
10mg Vitamin B-6
38$. I don't suggest the fruit punch flavor.
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B6 helps aminos absorb
Also if you are using these aminos intra-wo, then since you've spike blood plasma levels they will stay elevated and lower over the course of two hrs, you plan on having a post-wo shake i would just use 1 scoop of purple wraath or other pre-wo, since protein synthesis will be elevated for 2 hrs OR use purple wraath/intrabolic intra-wo and forget the post-wo shake and eat your next scheduled meal 20-60min after the session, since you'll have aminos in the body for 2hrs after post-wo, either option is fine
I like Primordials bcaa's they are very affordable. That trueprotein mix looks pretty righteous though.
Lou, you're saying that if I use MST's RPG intra workout than I no longer have to rush home to have my post workout shake? That'd be awesome if that's the case. I train another guy and often times I can't get home to have my shake for about 30-45 minutes after I've done my own workout.
That is exactly what im saying,
When you spike blood plasma levels with Free Form aminos they stay elevated for 2hrs.
If you have have your RPG Pre then you can have RPG post and just eat 30-45min later OR If you have RPG Intra, id do 2 serving of this product then you can just eat food 20-60min later, not shake needed since your muscle already have aminos in the blood and are being fed for about an hr after training...plus a whey shake takes 1-2 hrs to reach the muscles anyways so just eat man