Best Fat Loss Product or Stack for under $70

[thebigt]

AND it's non-stimulant, so it can stack with ECA. That's the money right there.

and even buying bronkaid/caffeine tab/aspirin along with at-2/erase it still comes in at right around $70

[SweetLou321]

pordon my ignorence but isnt at-2 a stimulant? methyl syn and yohimbine?

[thebigt]

pordon my ignorence but isnt at-2 a stimulant? methyl syn and yohimbine?

the low doses of methyl-synephrine[30mg] and alpha yohimbe[7mg] were designed more for fatburning than stimulant effect. most people report a very mild stimulant effect. unlike the 200mg or more caffeine often found in stimulant fatburners.


one of the great reasons i like non-prop blends, you know exactly what you are taking.

[rochabp]

Please excuse my ignorance but, how does asprin play a roll in fat loss?

also on top of that its suppose to have some insulin sensitizing effect

[onemind1body]

Ya, I gotta give it to alpha t2 for the price and the results . Also experience an overall sense of well being with t2 that is the exact opposite with oep. I tried oep after reading the logs of some others but it just doesn't jive well with me. Even 1 cap seems to throw me off. I have a lot of experience with preworkout stims and stims in general legal or recreational (ha) and it just really makes me feel like yuck. Where as alpha t2 is just enough for a bit more intense workout and definite thermo effect. Every once in awhile I'll use rpm with it for some crazier sessions

[SweetLou321]

the low doses of methyl-synephrine[30mg] and alpha yohimbe[7mg] were designed more for fatburning than stimulant effect. most people report a very mild stimulant effect. unlike the 200mg or more caffeine often found in stimulant fatburners.


one of the great reasons i like non-prop blends, you know exactly what you are taking.

i dont see this as a small amount...not whatsoever, im extremely sensative to stims so to me thats a HUGE hit to add to a pre-wo or anything

[cw1]

Primatene, aspirin and caffeine ftw

Agree

[thebigt]

i dont see this as a small amount...not whatsoever, im extremely sensative to stims so to me thats a HUGE hit to add to a pre-wo or anything

well......maybe it aint for you then. i haven't found any supp yet that works for everyone.

one suggestion though is to take it away from your preworkout?

[Vitruvian]

Ephedrine + Lipo-AM
and/or
Lipo PM + Lean Xtreme

[rochabp]

Alpha t2 is awesome stuff
that with some eca your good to go

[thebigt]

Ephedrine + Lipo-AM
and/or
Lipo PM + Lean Xtreme

i am a fan of lipo pm, i use it often-very cost effective and good product.

[Dizmal]

Trifecta stack. Eat @ maintenance or even a bit above and you'll see a solid recomp.

[DGA3]

Primatene, aspirin and caffeine ftw

Is Primatene basically ephedrine? I used to use the ephedrine/caffine/asprin stack back in the day (when ephedrine was legal) and found it to be not only a great fat burner, but a great preworkout mix as well.

[rochabp]

Is Primatene basically ephedrine? I used to use the ephedrine/caffine/asprin stack back in the day (when ephedrine was legal) and found it to be not only a great fat burner, but a great preworkout mix as well.

yes

[jeffh3c]

Alpha t2 is awesome stuff
that with some eca your good to go

I looked through ingredients of Alpha T2 on NP. The symphadrine (sp?) appears as methyl symphadrine. This would be a poor choice post cycle then if I was running methylated PH then, right? I ask as I know the PH but not stims so much, and I'm not a chemist.

[rochabp]

I looked through ingredients of Alpha T2 on NP. The symphadrine (sp?) appears as methyl symphadrine. This would be a poor choice post cycle then if I was running methylated PH then, right? I ask as I know the PH but not stims so much, and I'm not a chemist.

i think you are talking about Synephrine
and i think you are mistaken as this is not a PH of some sort, this wont cause liver damage like methylated PH will

[delsolrob]

someone mentioned the Fat Loss Stack from PP, I used this with some glycobol with good results!

I'd love to run this again with some erase

[HATEFULone]

someone mentioned the Fat Loss Stack from PP, I used this with some glycobol with good results!

I'd love to run this again with some erase

I ran glycobol solo and loved it, haven't tried the fat loss stack but have heard good things about it so I am sure that would be a solid stack.

[manicstudio]

Sub

[nattydisaster]

I looked through ingredients of Alpha T2 on NP. The symphadrine (sp?) appears as methyl symphadrine. This would be a poor choice post cycle then if I was running methylated PH then, right? I ask as I know the PH but not stims so much, and I'm not a chemist.

Methylated steroids are toxic to the liver, but methylated ingredients in general are not.

Caffeine is trimethyl-xanthine, for example