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    Best Pre-workout supp with no Stims?


    Hello,

    I am a big fan of NoShogun and also White Flood - but I find it if take these too late at night they can make it hard for me to sleep properly/get a deep sleep.

    whats people's advice for a great pre-workout supplement that doesn't have any stims? a bit of sugar is ok, but not stims

    thanks!

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    I would give hemavol a look; it has always gotten great consistent feedback in the past and to date. It's a non-stim NO designed to increase plasma volume leading to heightened vascularity and fullness.

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    I haven't used either of them, but I've heard good things about PreMax and Caf Free Ragnarok.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dubplate6 View Post
    Hello,

    I am a big fan of NoShogun and also White Flood - but I find it if take these too late at night they can make it hard for me to sleep properly/get a deep sleep.

    whats people's advice for a great pre-workout supplement that doesn't have any stims? a bit of sugar is ok, but not stims

    thanks!
    If you're looking for more endurance effects, Drive or Cre-02 are excellent - and also help re strength and leaning, etc.

    Otherwise, there is Pre Max.

    OR you could create your own stack:
    * Drive - dose as directed
    * IGF-2 - dose as directed
    * Choline Bitartrate - 1g
    * ALCAR - 2g
    * Tyrosine - 1g

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    Premax or Ultima are the top contenders in my opinion.
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    ^^^ Ultima is a great choice. I almost never see negative reviews.



    my favorite stim free pre-wo I've tried is HemaVol + CBol. The combo is nuts!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosie Chee Scott View Post
    If you're looking for more endurance effects, Drive or Cre-02 are excellent - and also help re strength and leaning, etc.

    Otherwise, there is Pre Max.

    OR you could create your own stack:
    * Drive - dose as directed
    * IGF-2 - dose as directed
    * Choline Bitartrate - 1g
    * ALCAR - 2g
    * Tyrosine - 1g

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    i agree about drive, i really like it. body octane aint bad either. also hemodraulix!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by monstermash View Post
    Premax or Ultima are the top contenders in my opinion.
    This!
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    There is a caffeine free version of MST Ragnarok Ultra, which is pretty good.
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    I have used premax, loved it, but also a bit pricey, if you can't shell out the shillings for it I would look into a gplc based product, or even just buy some in bulk, works well for me when I want non stim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosie Chee Scott View Post
    If you're looking for more endurance effects, Drive or Cre-02 are excellent - and also help re strength and leaning, etc.

    Otherwise, there is Pre Max.

    OR you could create your own stack:
    * Drive - dose as directed
    * IGF-2 - dose as directed
    * Choline Bitartrate - 1g
    * ALCAR - 2g
    * Tyrosine - 1g

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    Drive gives some really good energy for being stim free.
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    I have used premax, loved it, but also a bit pricey, if you can't shell out the shillings for it I would look into a gplc based product, or even just buy some in bulk, works well for me when I want non stim.
    Agreed. GPLC would be another good choice, throw in some tyrosine and gluconorolactone(sp) and you would be set.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dubplate6 View Post
    Hello,

    I am a big fan of NoShogun - but I find it if take these too late at night they can make it hard for me to sleep properly/get a deep sleep.
    Why not just go for Synthesize, exact blend without stimulants?
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    I can't take any of the stim related pre-workout products out there, it's just too much. I have always liked Drive. But I have been itching to try Pre Max because of the hydrolyzed casein.

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    Ultima. I've not tried much else w/o stims.
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    I am 100% with the Ultima recommendation. I was using that and only that for a month and still made gains. It is highly underrated and needs to be used by all at least once to see how effective it is.
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    I totally forgot about adding L-tyrosine, I used to use blast and poseiden, gave me great workouts and not too heavy on the stims.
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    Pre Max
    Hemavol
    Ultima
    or your own concoction.
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    I have heard of some people mixing premax and assault or asgt, one option could be to use only premax when working out at night, and when you are planning on using stims do the mix. I still have to try the mix though.
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    i would really agree with pre max or caffeine free ragnarok, both have potent doses of what you need, although i do add bulk beta alanine for lactic acid buffering, some good ol creapure creatine for strength and ATP production to pre-max

    ragnarok already has a great dose of creatines in it and people love it, ive tried samples before and liked it, although personally i need my stims
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    BlueGene by control labs is awesome,and no stims..
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    Quote Originally Posted by fightbackhxc View Post
    Pre Max
    Hemavol
    Ultima
    or your own concoction.
    Solid list!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fightbackhxc View Post
    Pre Max
    Hemavol
    Ultima
    or your own concoction.
    I gotta try the Pre Max and Ultima combo, sounds killer

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryansm View Post
    I gotta try the Pre Max and Ultima combo, sounds killer
    If I had the funds this would be my staple stack.
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    Only stim-free I have used is PreMax, and I have stated all over these boards how much I love it.

    Ragnarok Caff Free version has received good reviews as well.
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    I have to look up the ingredient profile on ultima and see how well it would complement my premax, interesting though it is.
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    anyone wanna test some HemaVol? I'm up to send some loggers out!
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    Pre-max

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    scoop of 1 assalut+ a scoop of pre-max

    also caff-free rag is also very good!
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    PreMax or MAN
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    Quote Originally Posted by VaughnTrue View Post
    anyone wanna test some HemaVol? I'm up to send some loggers out!
    I would love to try hemavol, I work 7pm-7am and sometimes workout after my shift, rough times. I have been around the block with preworkout supplements. Here is a link to my glycobol log I did a little while back. Glycobol solo, it begins now
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    Quote Originally Posted by VaughnTrue View Post
    anyone wanna test some HemaVol? I'm up to send some loggers out!
    Bumping this, awesome idea!!!
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    for a great pre-workout supplement that doesn't have any stims id have t say pre-max is a good pick for sure. along with some creatine your GTG.
    me i like me stims
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    Quote Originally Posted by criticalbench View Post
    Bumping this, awesome idea!!!
    I will love to log this!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAHHH View Post
    for a great pre-workout supplement that doesn't have any stims id have t say pre-max is a good pick for sure. along with some creatine your GTG.
    me i like me stims
    I have never tried it - but I would also support this. I have always wanted to give a container of this a go, and although I have surely spent thousands upon thousands of dollars on supplements over the past decade, I just can't bring myself to punch my 16 digits in. It is still a great looking product nonetheless!
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    premax heard great things
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    Neogenix Bodyforge is my favorite
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    I used to love the old SNS CVM Xtreme for this type of situation.. Was awesome.
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    Has PLCAR become "unpopular/uselss" these days?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rosie Chee Scott View Post
    If you're looking for more endurance effects, Drive or Cre-02 are excellent - and also help re strength and leaning, etc.

    Otherwise, there is Pre Max.

    OR you could create your own stack:
    * Drive - dose as directed
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    * ALCAR - 2g
    * Tyrosine - 1g

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    Where do all the carbs (18g) + sugars (13g) come from in PreMax????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    Where do all the carbs (18g) + sugars (13g) come from in PreMax????
    The product contains actual freeze dried pomegranate.
    Just inject.
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