Best Pre-workout supp with no Stims?

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  1. Best Pre-workout supp with no Stims?


    Hello,

    I am a big fan of NoShogun and also White Flood - but I find it if take these too late at night they can make it hard for me to sleep properly/get a deep sleep.

    whats people's advice for a great pre-workout supplement that doesn't have any stims? a bit of sugar is ok, but not stims

    thanks!


  2. I would give hemavol a look; it has always gotten great consistent feedback in the past and to date. It's a non-stim NO designed to increase plasma volume leading to heightened vascularity and fullness.

    Mike
    Hi-Tech Pharmaceuticals Representative
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  3. I haven't used either of them, but I've heard good things about PreMax and Caf Free Ragnarok.
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by dubplate6 View Post
    Hello,

    I am a big fan of NoShogun and also White Flood - but I find it if take these too late at night they can make it hard for me to sleep properly/get a deep sleep.

    whats people's advice for a great pre-workout supplement that doesn't have any stims? a bit of sugar is ok, but not stims

    thanks!
    If you're looking for more endurance effects, Drive or Cre-02 are excellent - and also help re strength and leaning, etc.

    Otherwise, there is Pre Max.

    OR you could create your own stack:
    * Drive - dose as directed
    * IGF-2 - dose as directed
    * Choline Bitartrate - 1g
    * ALCAR - 2g
    * Tyrosine - 1g

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  5. Premax or Ultima are the top contenders in my opinion.
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  6. ^^^ Ultima is a great choice. I almost never see negative reviews.



    my favorite stim free pre-wo I've tried is HemaVol + CBol. The combo is nuts!
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by Rosie Chee Scott View Post
    If you're looking for more endurance effects, Drive or Cre-02 are excellent - and also help re strength and leaning, etc.

    Otherwise, there is Pre Max.

    OR you could create your own stack:
    * Drive - dose as directed
    * IGF-2 - dose as directed
    * Choline Bitartrate - 1g
    * ALCAR - 2g
    * Tyrosine - 1g

    ~Rosie~
    The Primordial Woman
    i agree about drive, i really like it. body octane aint bad either. also hemodraulix!!!
    WELL DONE IS BETTER THAN WELL SAID

  8. Quote Originally Posted by monstermash View Post
    Premax or Ultima are the top contenders in my opinion.
    This!

  9. There is a caffeine free version of MST Ragnarok Ultra, which is pretty good.

  10. I have used premax, loved it, but also a bit pricey, if you can't shell out the shillings for it I would look into a gplc based product, or even just buy some in bulk, works well for me when I want non stim.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by Rosie Chee Scott View Post
    If you're looking for more endurance effects, Drive or Cre-02 are excellent - and also help re strength and leaning, etc.

    Otherwise, there is Pre Max.

    OR you could create your own stack:
    * Drive - dose as directed
    * IGF-2 - dose as directed
    * Choline Bitartrate - 1g
    * ALCAR - 2g
    * Tyrosine - 1g

    ~Rosie~
    The Primordial Woman
    Drive gives some really good energy for being stim free.
    Quote Originally Posted by HATEFULone View Post
    I have used premax, loved it, but also a bit pricey, if you can't shell out the shillings for it I would look into a gplc based product, or even just buy some in bulk, works well for me when I want non stim.
    Agreed. GPLC would be another good choice, throw in some tyrosine and gluconorolactone(sp) and you would be set.
    ~ Nothing can kill the Grimace!!



  12. Quote Originally Posted by dubplate6 View Post
    Hello,

    I am a big fan of NoShogun - but I find it if take these too late at night they can make it hard for me to sleep properly/get a deep sleep.
    Why not just go for Synthesize, exact blend without stimulants?

  13. I can't take any of the stim related pre-workout products out there, it's just too much. I have always liked Drive. But I have been itching to try Pre Max because of the hydrolyzed casein.


  14. Ultima. I've not tried much else w/o stims.

  15. I am 100% with the Ultima recommendation. I was using that and only that for a month and still made gains. It is highly underrated and needs to be used by all at least once to see how effective it is.
    If my direct and cynical approach bothers you, just ignore it. I'm just saying what you need to hear ;).

  16. I totally forgot about adding L-tyrosine, I used to use blast and poseiden, gave me great workouts and not too heavy on the stims.

  17. Pre Max
    Hemavol
    Ultima
    or your own concoction.
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  18. I have heard of some people mixing premax and assault or asgt, one option could be to use only premax when working out at night, and when you are planning on using stims do the mix. I still have to try the mix though.

  19. i would really agree with pre max or caffeine free ragnarok, both have potent doses of what you need, although i do add bulk beta alanine for lactic acid buffering, some good ol creapure creatine for strength and ATP production to pre-max

    ragnarok already has a great dose of creatines in it and people love it, ive tried samples before and liked it, although personally i need my stims

  20. BlueGene by control labs is awesome,and no stims..

  21. Quote Originally Posted by fightbackhxc View Post
    Pre Max
    Hemavol
    Ultima
    or your own concoction.
    Solid list!

    Mike
    Hi-Tech Pharmaceuticals Representative

  22. Quote Originally Posted by fightbackhxc View Post
    Pre Max
    Hemavol
    Ultima
    or your own concoction.
    I gotta try the Pre Max and Ultima combo, sounds killer


  23. Quote Originally Posted by ryansm View Post
    I gotta try the Pre Max and Ultima combo, sounds killer
    If I had the funds this would be my staple stack.

  24. Only stim-free I have used is PreMax, and I have stated all over these boards how much I love it.

    Ragnarok Caff Free version has received good reviews as well.
    Just inject.
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  25. I have to look up the ingredient profile on ultima and see how well it would complement my premax, interesting though it is.

  26. anyone wanna test some HemaVol? I'm up to send some loggers out!
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  27. Pre-max

    islandmagic mix
    scoop of 1 assalut+ a scoop of pre-max

    also caff-free rag is also very good!
    Diet is always the key to unlocking the door of success


  28. PreMax or MAN

  29. Quote Originally Posted by VaughnTrue View Post
    anyone wanna test some HemaVol? I'm up to send some loggers out!
    I would love to try hemavol, I work 7pm-7am and sometimes workout after my shift, rough times. I have been around the block with preworkout supplements. Here is a link to my glycobol log I did a little while back. Glycobol solo, it begins now
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