Best Pre-workout supp with no Stims?
- 11-11-2010, 12:43 AM
Best Pre-workout supp with no Stims?
I am a big fan of NoShogun and also White Flood - but I find it if take these too late at night they can make it hard for me to sleep properly/get a deep sleep.
whats people's advice for a great pre-workout supplement that doesn't have any stims? a bit of sugar is ok, but not stims
- 11-11-2010, 12:58 AM
I would give hemavol a look; it has always gotten great consistent feedback in the past and to date. It's a non-stim NO designed to increase plasma volume leading to heightened vascularity and fullness.
MikeHi-Tech Pharmaceuticals Representative
11-11-2010, 01:15 AM
I haven't used either of them, but I've heard good things about PreMax and Caf Free Ragnarok.
Iron Legion Rep
11-11-2010, 08:36 AM
Otherwise, there is Pre Max.
OR you could create your own stack:
* Drive - dose as directed
* IGF-2 - dose as directed
* Choline Bitartrate - 1g
* ALCAR - 2g
* Tyrosine - 1g
The Primordial Woman
11-11-2010, 09:21 AM
11-11-2010, 01:41 PM
^^^ Ultima is a great choice. I almost never see negative reviews.
my favorite stim free pre-wo I've tried is HemaVol + CBol. The combo is nuts!
Hi-Tech Pharmaceuticals Representative Manager
11-11-2010, 01:46 PM
11-11-2010, 02:12 PM
11-12-2010, 08:14 AM
11-12-2010, 11:42 AM
I have used premax, loved it, but also a bit pricey, if you can't shell out the shillings for it I would look into a gplc based product, or even just buy some in bulk, works well for me when I want non stim.
11-12-2010, 11:58 AM
11-12-2010, 02:39 PM
11-12-2010, 02:59 PM
I can't take any of the stim related pre-workout products out there, it's just too much. I have always liked Drive. But I have been itching to try Pre Max because of the hydrolyzed casein.
11-12-2010, 03:03 PM
11-12-2010, 03:42 PM
11-12-2010, 04:00 PM
I am 100% with the Ultima recommendation. I was using that and only that for a month and still made gains. It is highly underrated and needs to be used by all at least once to see how effective it is.
If my direct and cynical approach bothers you, just ignore it. I'm just saying what you need to hear ;).
11-12-2010, 04:15 PM
I totally forgot about adding L-tyrosine, I used to use blast and poseiden, gave me great workouts and not too heavy on the stims.
11-12-2010, 08:04 PM
or your own concoction.
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11-13-2010, 02:06 PM
I have heard of some people mixing premax and assault or asgt, one option could be to use only premax when working out at night, and when you are planning on using stims do the mix. I still have to try the mix though.
11-13-2010, 03:59 PM
i would really agree with pre max or caffeine free ragnarok, both have potent doses of what you need, although i do add bulk beta alanine for lactic acid buffering, some good ol creapure creatine for strength and ATP production to pre-max
ragnarok already has a great dose of creatines in it and people love it, ive tried samples before and liked it, although personally i need my stims
11-13-2010, 04:27 PM
11-13-2010, 11:40 PM
11-14-2010, 02:50 PM
11-15-2010, 10:07 AM
11-15-2010, 10:16 AM
Only stim-free I have used is PreMax, and I have stated all over these boards how much I love it.
Ragnarok Caff Free version has received good reviews as well.
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