7 OH And Phosphatidylserine
- 10-25-2010, 11:18 PM
- 10-25-2010, 11:26 PM
EndoAmp Max - which contains Phosphatidylserine.
I have also used and the original DermaTherm - both of which contain 7-OH AND 7-oxo.
It's too early yet for me to evaluate EndoAmp Max, but I have had definite success with both the original and the original DermaTherm - more the DermaTherm.
If you're going to use a cortisol control product, then I recommend using on that has BOTH 7-OH AND 7-oxo if you can find one.
EndoAmp Max has other benefits than just cortisol control. EndoAmp Max can be used long-term, whereas Lean Xtreme is recommended to be cycled. EndoAmp Max also has other benefits than just cortisol control. It IS sensible to cycle on and off cortisol control products, though, to give your body a break, and because you don not want to become dependent on such products, not to mention that your body NEEDS cortisol and having it at low levels for chronic periods is not good for it.
The Primordial Woman
10-26-2010, 01:51 AM
10-26-2010, 11:30 AM
the 7OH product will be more effective per cost, hands down
EDIT: But hormonal C inhibition is easy to go overboard with. Vit C/Rhodiola/PS seem to have a more self-regulating nature, whereas steroidal anti-C just smashes it down if you're not careful. I might lean towards PS if it's really for long term consumption
Paging Dr. Banner. . .
10-26-2010, 11:33 AM
10-26-2010, 11:34 AM
for straight up cort control, 7oh. I like to take Phosphatidylserine as an overall health/well being product when I'm looking for cort control and mental acuity.
~ Nothing can kill the Grimace!!
10-26-2010, 11:35 AM
10-26-2010, 11:35 AM
10-26-2010, 12:48 PM
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10-26-2010, 02:03 PM
10-26-2010, 02:18 PM
10-26-2010, 02:25 PM
10-26-2010, 02:44 PM
However, as I stated, the taste pretty much disappears as you continue using it (and using Organic VitaBerry with it helps as well). If you don't like the taste, then mix it with something else, like I didEndoAmp Max
Smell: 2/10. EndoAmp Max smells like a chemical - hard to put my finger on, but almost like nail polish or varnish.
Taste: 2/10. Nasty. Worse than it smells. As bad as Vitamin B5 powder.
Solubility: 10/10. On shaking there was no trace of the powder and no clumps or excess was left in the water or on the bottom of the shaker.
Texture: 10/10. Like fruit juice diluted with water.
Other Effects: N/A. Even though it smells and tastes like a$$, the taste will lessen as I get used to it to the point I will no longer notice it, and the product is highly beneficial and useful to me for cortisol control, so I am going to continue using it regardless.
The Primordial Woman
10-26-2010, 06:03 PM
10-26-2010, 06:07 PM
10-28-2010, 08:27 AM
10-28-2010, 05:41 PM
If I could justify the price tag, I would use :
SNS Reduce XT
It would cost $100+, but at least I would know I'm getting effective doses of cortisol lowering ingredients...instead of underdosed proprietary blends.
11-30-2010, 02:57 AM
EndoAmp Max contains Phosphatidylserine and i have only heard good things about it.
stack that with toco-8 and need2slin i think might be a nice comboe for a repartioner and lowering cortisol.
11-30-2010, 07:16 AM
Studies have shown that soy-derived PS does not affect cortisol in any way. It is the bovine-cortex PS that possesses the cortisol lowering attributes. Given the risk of transmitting mad cow disease, BC-PS is not readily available for purchase. Soy PS however did increase sprint capacity significantly.
Given that PS is so damn expensive, I wouldn't even bother.
I could be wrong however.
11-30-2010, 12:24 PM
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