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    Dhea and cortisol


    Does it help on lowering cortisol. If so which is better7 keto or dhea. Thanks

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    7 keto is def better at reducing cort.
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    im using endoamp pre
    workout to reduce cort and i like it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poopypants View Post
    7 keto is def better at reducing cort.
    7-Keto need to be converted in 7-OH so is best take Reduce XT has the two isomers 7-Alpha and 7-Beta in one cap!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by fightbackhxc View Post
    im using endoamp pre
    workout to reduce cort and i like it.
    EndoAmp is a Great product too!
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    What would be better Reduce xt or X Lean
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    Quote Originally Posted by nobel252 View Post
    What would be better Reduce xt or X Lean
    Reduce XT and has 90 caps!!!
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    use 7-keto and i would use 200mg a day, 100mg first thing in the morning and 100 later in the day, or post workout.

    7-keto doesnt "lower" cortisol, it antagonizes cortisol's negative effects. keep in mind it may not actually antagonize catabolism.
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    Ax1....mighty..mighty impressed with your transformation. In your experience whats the best cort control product you used?
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    Quote Originally Posted by saggy321 View Post
    Ax1....mighty..mighty impressed with your transformation. In your experience whats the best cort control product you used?
    trandermal 7-oxo, the product i used is no longer available.

    patrick arnold now had a trandermal 7-keto under his prototype label, called "7-spray" you should check it out. i havent tried it yet, but i will at some point.

    you can visit the epharm section, they may provide with more information about prototype.

    thanks for the compliments!
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    Anyone know what's a optimal dose for regular dhea for it not to convert into estrogen and how long to take it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    use 7-keto and i would use 200mg a day, 100mg first thing in the morning and 100 later in the day, or post workout.

    7-keto doesnt "lower" cortisol, it antagonizes cortisol's negative effects. keep in mind it may not actually antagonize catabolism.
    since DHEA and 7-Keto decline at a more rapid rate than cortisol, this creates a period of cortisol dominance that can wreak havoc on the immune system. For these reasons, supplementation with 7-Keto is often appropriate.

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    I think I'm going to try reduce xt. Can I take it long term and what makes the 7 oh more desirable than 7 keto or regular dhea. I'm assuming because it dosent covert to estrogen. Also I read that dhea helps with thyroid function which is why I would want to take it long term because I suffer from hypothyroidism. Dose 7 OH have the same effect. Thanks in advance
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    Quote Originally Posted by nobel252 View Post
    I think I'm going to try reduce xt. Can I take it long term and what makes the 7 oh more desirable than 7 keto or regular dhea. I'm assuming because it dosent covert to estrogen. Also I read that dhea helps with thyroid function which is why I would want to take it long term because I suffer from hypothyroidism. Dose 7 OH have the same effect. Thanks in advance

    7-oxo-DHEA combined with moderate exercise and a reduced-calorie diet signiflcantly reduces body weight and body fat compared with exercise and a reduced-calorie diet alone. In addition, 7-oxo-DHEA significantly elevated T3 levels but did not affect TSH or T4 levels, indicating that it does not adversely affect thyroid function in the short term.

    A Czech research team discovered that 7-Keto can counteract the effect of circulating glucocorticoids, such as cortisol, which often rise with age and can suppress immune function.

    Zenk JL, Kuskowski MA. The use of 3-acetyl-7-oxo-dehydroepiandrosterone for augmenting immune response in the elderly. Presented at meeting of FASEB, April 17, 2004.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAxximal View Post
    7-oxo-DHEA combined with moderate exercise and a reduced-calorie diet signiflcantly reduces body weight and body fat compared with exercise and a reduced-calorie diet alone. In addition, 7-oxo-DHEA significantly elevated T3 levels but did not affect TSH or T4 levels, indicating that it does not adversely affect thyroid function in the short term.

    A Czech research team discovered that 7-Keto can counteract the effect of circulating glucocorticoids, such as cortisol, which often rise with age and can suppress immune function.

    Zenk JL, Kuskowski MA. The use of 3-acetyl-7-oxo-dehydroepiandrosterone for augmenting immune response in the elderly. Presented at meeting of FASEB, April 17, 2004.

    nice post....and is especially true if you use the trans dermal version.

    i swear i thought it boosts TSH though....perhaps different studies show different results.
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    I've used 7OH and have an unopened Endoamp Max at home just waiting to be used.

    I've also read quite a bit about mega dosing Vitamin C to blunt cortisol.
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    7-oxo-DHEA (7-keto-DHEA): this has a terrible oral availability and an even worse half life (2 hours). This is best taken transdermally, where such effects can by bypassed.

    7-Hydroxy-DHEA: Potent cortisol suppressor with great oral bioavailability.
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