Good supp for depression
- 10-13-2010, 05:00 PM
- 10-13-2010, 05:37 PM
Tell him to stop all caffeine. It throws of the seratonin dopamine ratio. Also, I don't know if you wanna tell your dad to smoke weed, but I really think a low dose where people can't really tell that your high seems to take the edge off.
- 10-13-2010, 05:51 PM
he doesn't drink caffeine man and he wouldnt smoke weed
10-13-2010, 05:53 PM
if the depression is real, depending on the severity, self medicating can be very dangerous
10-13-2010, 05:53 PM
Stopping caffeine however is a good idea.
My personal experience when I went on TRT stopped all caffeine and alcohol I had a massive improvement to my depression and anxiety. I do however still love my pre-work drinks and yes I get anxiety from them ... I just have to keep the dose on the lower side.
10-13-2010, 05:56 PM
10-13-2010, 05:59 PM
10-13-2010, 06:00 PM
I would go see a doctor. period. If he doesn't want to be on an SSRI then have him tell the doctor that and discuss other options.
This is just not something I would self medicate. May need to try and get the route of the depression as well instead of simply taking a pill. No hate just real advice.
10-13-2010, 06:15 PM
Do ppl report deppression while on Test??? Or do you feel better? I'm asking because i want to do a 12 week run soon, (will be my first) but don't want to experience any deppression or mood swings...how do you generally feel on test? Ive done a few cycles of SD loved it but felt kinda down and unconfident toward the end of cycle and moody as HELL...
10-13-2010, 06:27 PM
10-13-2010, 06:32 PM
10-13-2010, 07:36 PM
Having said that, he already said that his dad won't do it, so I didn't mean to turn it into a weed forum.
10-13-2010, 07:39 PM
10-13-2010, 08:50 PM
10-13-2010, 09:01 PM
Also, both my mom and I have had bouts with depression (hers worse than mine) and we both failed horribly trying to self-medicate. If it works for him though, more power to your dad.
Personally, Prozac practically saved my life. I was on it for a year, had few side effects, and it allowed me to see outside the wall of my depression. Not all SSRI's are bad, especially if you find the right one for you. Just throwing that in there.
Best wishes to you.
10-13-2010, 09:26 PM
I'd take 6grms of inositol a day. this vitamin has been shown to be as effective as the SSRI drugs in the treatment of depression. due diligence
10-14-2010, 03:52 AM
Go to a doctor.
Nothing works as well as meds.
Ive tried most of the stuff they used in studies, by themselves and combined and nothing has even come close to medication, it has helped a bit, but again nothing like SSRI.
10-14-2010, 06:07 AM
10-14-2010, 06:07 AM
also St.johnes wart herb coulb help
10-14-2010, 06:48 AM
10-14-2010, 08:38 AM
For a test to see if it is serotonin related, I'd try 50mg 5-Htp in the morning and at night for a week, IF it is serotonin depletion causing his moods, this will quickly alleviatei it. Then he can make the decision to see a doc for an SSRI, or use OTC stuff (5htp plus St Johns Wort is a very effective combo from personal experience, but even SJW gave me some 'wood' issues.)
10-14-2010, 08:41 AM
10-14-2010, 10:26 AM
Like mentioned if its severe, he might want to see a doc.
Depending on whats going on, SJW might help. Its acts like an SSRI. I've been in an agitated, anxious, bit depressive state recently. I started a stack of L-Tryptophan - 5HTP.
Also I'm a big fan of Theanine. I wouldn't say it would be effective for depression, more for taking the edge off.
10-14-2010, 10:46 AM
The two things that have been proven effective I cannot believe have not been mentioned; they being Folic Acid taken with SAM-e. My GF has mild depression and the SAM-e has worked wonders for her mood and confidence. She takes 800 mgs a day, not cheap, but for her without health insurance and no desire to take anti-psychotic drugs, those two work nearly as well. Plus, SAM-e is excellent at detoxifying the liver and even better for joint pain. I highly suggest you see a doctor regardless but ask about those two, they are more and more being recommended for a non-prescription route.
If my direct and cynical approach bothers you, just ignore it. I'm just saying what you need to hear ;).
10-14-2010, 11:01 AM
10-14-2010, 12:45 PM
The 3 biggies are:
St Johns Wort - either Kira or Perika brands.
Also could consider deprenyl 5mg ED, although it's not strictly OTC.
Seeing a doctor depends IMO on it depends on how bad it is for your dad. A psychiatrist is just going to prescribe something like Paxil, Wellbutrin, or Effexor. These have a less than 50% success rate and have lots of side-effects. So in this case, try the natural route first.
Of course if it is severe, then yes, he should go see a doctor. But if it's mild, then honestly seeing a dr and getting prescribed the pharmacy will do more harm than good.
A lot of it could be psychological too. Midlife crisis and all that. In that case talk therapy helps and if his insurance covers a psychologist, then he should check that route out.
10-14-2010, 01:09 PM
L-theanine would probably be better for anxiety.
I would start with fish oil. It wouldn't hurt and contains EFAs that everyone needs anyway. Research published in the Online Journal of Clinical Psychiatry, suggested fish oil may be effective at treating people suffering from depression.
It would be a positive option for your dad and he could ask his healthcare practitoner about it.
Brands I can vouch for on the quality would be Carlson Labs, Nordic Naturals, Metagenics and I think Barleans has some pretty decent fish oil as well.
This is what my son and I take - http://www.kidsvitaminshop.com/Kids-...mon-200mL.html
1 tsp would be very close to what was used in the study above. Yes, I know it says "Kids" but I like the quality, potency and taste and so does my son.
Also, as Robboe pointed out, plenty of Vitamin D3!
10-14-2010, 06:42 PM
Thanks for all the feedback, I think I'm going to have him try 5-HTP to rule out a seratonin issue before anything else. Then if that doesn't work I'll suggest a hormone panel, etc. Climbing the ladder until the right solution is found...
10-16-2010, 11:03 AM
I would not give him any supplement without running it by a doctor it can make the condition worse or even dangerous.
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