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  1. Phone call from FDA


    I got a call from FDA to day and they left a message saying they were calling regarding a product I purchased from muscle masters??? that is being investigated. Anyone else get the call or know what its about
    NOT an IFORCE rep, but their new VMS Protean is amazing. I also dropped 15lbs on the testabolan2 and rev2 stack last month.


  2. The are the parent of a few retailors, and of CEL.... I know CEL has had quite a bit of heat for their hormones... probably formulating a case against that parent company.
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  3. ????? boy thats a strange one pretend you dont speak english lol but seriously what have you gotten lately that would warrant a call from those kill joys?
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  4. damn that's crazy man.

  5. have not ordered any cel since day before the ban, and on that day it might have involved around 50 bottles. I am not worried about it. I have been taken down by the drug task force before for juice so I am not worried about something I leagally purchased
    NOT an IFORCE rep, but their new VMS Protean is amazing. I also dropped 15lbs on the testabolan2 and rev2 stack last month.

  6. next comes the ban and voluntary recall request
    i think that's how it started last time... phones calls... followed by ban and recall

  7. richard nixon declared a 'war on drugs' in 1971. judging by how available street drugs are today, i would have to say the fda has better things to do than investigate pro-hormones. at any rate if you judge them by how well they have done at getting drugs off the streets, i would say the fda is the barney fife of law enforcement. GO BARNEY-SHOOT THAT FOOT!!!

  8. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    richard nixon declared a 'war on drugs' in 1971. judging by how available street drugs are today, i would have to say the fda has better things to do than investigate pro-hormones. at any rate if you judge them by how well they have done at getting drugs off the streets, i would say the fda is the barney fife of law enforcement. GO BARNEY-SHOOT THAT FOOT!!!
    lol too funny but true by God cocaine isnt that bad but if you buy hormones LEGALLY they try to screw you more

  9. yeah it is crazy for sure. we have one of the largest problems with perscription med in the country where I live, but all you hear is about the juice heads. Granted we do have one of the largest underground labs, but the juicers arent hurtin too many people compared to the pill heads
    NOT an IFORCE rep, but their new VMS Protean is amazing. I also dropped 15lbs on the testabolan2 and rev2 stack last month.

  10. 99% sure it is about Piractem (sp?), if you have purchased any. musclemasters = BN/1F400/lots of other places.

    Maybe you bought like 10 kilos and they want to steal it from you!
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by bigbeef View Post
    yeah it is crazy for sure. we have one of the largest problems with perscription med in the country where I live, but all you hear is about the juice heads. Granted we do have one of the largest underground labs, but the juicers arent hurtin too many people compared to the pill heads
    you ever heard any head of government agency talk-geez, it's a wonder we aren't in much worse shape than we are in. our leaders SUCK!!!

  12. Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    99% sure it is about Piractem (sp?), if you have purchased any. musclemasters = BN/1F400/lots of other places
    mike gave us a headsup on it about a month ago, knew it was coming.

  13. wow very interesting

  14. Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    99% sure it is about Piractem (sp?), if you have purchased any. musclemasters = BN/1F400/lots of other places.

    Maybe you bought like 10 kilos and they want to steal it from you!
    I gotta got out and get my kilo of this stuff


    but thats pretty scary if they're calling up ppl about what supps they buy.. can you call that invasion of privacy and where did they get your number anyway?
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    mike gave us a headsup on it about a month ago, knew it was coming.
    Yup, we sure saw this one coming
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  16. Next time they call tell them stop harrasing you or you'll call the police hahahaha

  17. It's probably related to the M-Drol lawsuit and any/all purchases from CEL.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    99% sure it is about Piractem (sp?), if you have purchased any. musclemasters = BN/1F400/lots of other places.

    Maybe you bought like 10 kilos and they want to steal it from you!
    never purchased any of that
    NOT an IFORCE rep, but their new VMS Protean is amazing. I also dropped 15lbs on the testabolan2 and rev2 stack last month.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Delta Force View Post
    I gotta got out and get my kilo of this stuff


    but thats pretty scary if they're calling up ppl about what supps they buy.. can you call that invasion of privacy and where did they get your number anyway?
    I have no idea how they got my number. I got some letters in the mail a few months back
    NOT an IFORCE rep, but their new VMS Protean is amazing. I also dropped 15lbs on the testabolan2 and rev2 stack last month.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by bigbeef View Post
    I have no idea how they got my number. I got some letters in the mail a few months back
    They're the gub-ment. They can haz ALL y'all numbas!
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  21. Keep us updated!

    Def weird stuff. I know they got some negative FDA attention from the piractem hence my guess...but now IDK!

    Honestly they might just be calling you to tell you something like "we just wanted u to know that this product u purchased it being recalled. Or is dangerous. Or something dumb like that
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    Keep us updated!

    Def weird stuff. I know they got some negative FDA attention from the piractem hence my guess...but now IDK!

    Honestly they might just be calling you to tell you something like "we just wanted u to know that this product u purchased it being recalled. Or is dangerous. Or something dumb like that
    i rest much easier knowing our government is so concerned with our health and welfare-YEAH RIGHT!!!

    if you dig deep it becomes apparent that the government is working against it's people, hell you don't have to dig very deep to come to that conclusion. as a veteran, i have become very ashamed of our government.

  23. OP are you sure this was not a prank call from one of your friends or a radio station?

    I've gotten emails about recalled CEL products but never heard of a phone call from anyone.... unless you bought a ton of this stuff and even then I've not heard of sites or comp being asked to hand over buyers information.

    big Tom, its Friday my man... lets all take a chill pill and enjoy the sun shine
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by Delta Force View Post
    OP are you sure this was not a prank call from one of your friends or a radio station?

    I've gotten emails about recalled CEL products but never heard of a phone call from anyone.... unless you bought a ton of this stuff and even then I've not heard of sites or comp being asked to hand over buyers information.

    big Tom, its Friday my man... lets all take a chill pill and enjoy the sun shine
    lol, me and my opinions.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    lol, me and my opinions.
    Thats more like it bro
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  26. nooo they better not ban CEL!!!!

  27. Do keep us updated. Also whats the deal with the Piracetam? I have considered trying it, is this something I should grab sooner than later to avoid a ban?
    Just inject.
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  28. Call them back, the suspense is killing me
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  29. then there's this:
    Gaspari Nutrition Inc. announced a voluntary national recall of all lots of its Novedex XT, which was marketed as a dietary supplement to “increase natural testosterone production." The product contains 3,17-keto-etiocholtriene, or ATD, an aromatase inhibitor that stops the body’s production of estrogen. FDA informed the company it does not believe 3,17-keto-etiochol-triene is a dietary ingredient, making the product adulterated. Several similar recalls of products containing ATD were announced in September 2010.
    FDA informed Gaspari Nutrition of potential adverse events associated with the use of anti-aromatases, including infertility, adrenal insufficiencies, and kidney and liver dysfunction. The agency concluded products containing aromatase inhibitors are likely to cause adverse reactions in at-risk consumers, including those with liver, kidney, adrenal or prostate concerns.

    i know they stopped making the stuff a while back... but now they're actually doing the voluntary recall...

  30. Yup just saw that too, announced yesterday. That could be it too
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  31. Quote Originally Posted by muscl3s View Post
    then there's this:
    Gaspari Nutrition Inc. announced a voluntary national recall of all lots of its Novedex XT, which was marketed as a dietary supplement to “increase natural testosterone production." The product contains 3,17-keto-etiocholtriene, or ATD, an aromatase inhibitor that stops the body’s production of estrogen. FDA informed the company it does not believe 3,17-keto-etiochol-triene is a dietary ingredient, making the product adulterated. Several similar recalls of products containing ATD were announced in September 2010.
    FDA informed Gaspari Nutrition of potential adverse events associated with the use of anti-aromatases, including infertility, adrenal insufficiencies, and kidney and liver dysfunction. The agency concluded products containing aromatase inhibitors are likely to cause adverse reactions in at-risk consumers, including those with liver, kidney, adrenal or prostate concerns.

    i know they stopped making the stuff a while back... but now they're actually doing the voluntary recall...
    I like their timing... lol
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  32. man goes beserk and kills 3 after drinking a protein shake, fda spokesperson on the scene say's inquiries into banning all protein supplements will begin immediately.
    supposedly the unidentified man has a history of abusing protein, often using 3 scoops instead of the recommended 1 to 2 scoops. fda says the potential for abuse is unlimited, and are fearful some may actually build up to the deadly 4 scoop dose.

  33. the fda later states, "if only the man had been taking cell-tech, this unfortunate act of brutality could have been avoided"

  34. hahaha
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  35. Quote Originally Posted by muscl3s View Post
    then there's this:
    Gaspari Nutrition Inc. announced a voluntary national recall of all lots of its Novedex XT, which was marketed as a dietary supplement to “increase natural testosterone production." The product contains 3,17-keto-etiocholtriene, or ATD, an aromatase inhibitor that stops the body’s production of estrogen. FDA informed the company it does not believe 3,17-keto-etiochol-triene is a dietary ingredient, making the product adulterated. Several similar recalls of products containing ATD were announced in September 2010.
    FDA informed Gaspari Nutrition of potential adverse events associated with the use of anti-aromatases, including infertility, adrenal insufficiencies, and kidney and liver dysfunction. The agency concluded products containing aromatase inhibitors are likely to cause adverse reactions in at-risk consumers, including those with liver, kidney, adrenal or prostate concerns.

    i know they stopped making the stuff a while back... but now they're actually doing the voluntary recall...
    Well, ATD is a synthetic molecule isn't it? It makes sense that they don't whant it to be marketed as nutrition. Ill only get pissed when they ban natural molecules. I don't know anything about CEL though.

  36. MuscleMaster Conducts a Voluntary Nationwide Recall of Certain Body Building Products



    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE - Northborough, MA – January 15, 2010 – MuscleMaster, Inc. ("MuscleMaster") announced today that it is conducting a voluntary nationwide recall of all lots and expiration dates of the seventeen below listed dietary supplements sold between June 1, 2009 and November 17, 2009 (hereinafter "Recalled Products").

    FDA informed MuscleMaster that it believes that the Recalled Products contain ingredients that are steroids. Specifically, FDA advised MuscleMaster of its concern that the Recalled Products may contain the following ingredients that are currently classified, or the FDA believes should be classified, as steroids: "Superdrol," "Madol," "Tren," "Androstenedione," and/or "Turinabol." While MuscleMaster cannot independently confirm the FDA's concerns, that any one or more of the Recalled Products in fact contain these ingredients, MuscleMaster is undertaking this voluntary recall out of an abundance of caution and in deference to FDA’s stated concerns.

    Acute liver injury is known to be a possible harmful effect of using steroid-containing products. In addition, steroids may cause other serious long-term adverse health consequences in men, women, and children. These include shrinkage of the testes and male infertility, masculinization of women, breast enlargement in males, short stature in children, a higher predilection to misuse other drugs and alcohol, adverse effects on blood lipid levels, and increased risk of heart attack, stroke, and death.

    MuscleMaster is recalling the following products:

    Advanced Muscle Science Dienedrone, 60 caps
    Advanced Muscle Science Liquidrone, 60 ml
    Anabolic Formulation M1, 4AD, 60 caps
    Anabolic Formulations 1, 4 AD, 60 caps
    Anabolic Xtreme Hyperdrol X2
    Anabolic Xtreme 3-AD, 90 caps
    BCS Labs Testra-Flex, 90 caps
    Competitive Edge Labs M-Drol, 90 Caps
    Competitive Edge Labs P-Plex, 90 caps
    Competitive Edge Labs X-Tren, 90 caps
    4Ever Fit D-Drol, 60 caps
    Gaspari Novedex XT 60 Caps
    Gaspari Halodrol Liquigels, 60 gels
    iForce 1,4 AD BOLD 200, 60 Caps
    iForce MethaDROL, 90 caps
    iForce Dymethazine, 60 caps
    Monster Caps, 60 caps

    MuscleMaster has not received any complaints of illness or injury regarding these products. FDA is concerned the products may present a safety risk to consumers who ingest them. MuscleMasteris an internet retailer and did not manufacture or formulate these products. MuscleMaster decision to implement this recall is not, and should not be construed as, an admission that their decision to sell these products was in violation of the law. In addition it is not, and should not be construed as, an admission that these products are not in compliance with the law. This recall is solely a reflection of MuscleMaster deference to the FDA’s stated concerns with these products.

    Customers who have these products in their possession should stop using them immediately and contact their physician if they have experienced any problems that may be related to using one or more of the products.

    Consumers should return any unused products purchased on the Company’s site to the Company.

  37. Can someone please enlighten me to why Hyperdrol X2 is on there?

  38. Anything that was tested which contained 6-Bromo showed up on the list.
    RcB Since 09-06-2011 20:55 EST, Post 49

  39. Thanks.

  40. You're welcome.
    RcB Since 09-06-2011 20:55 EST, Post 49
  

  
 

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