I agree and also disagree on the value aspect. I f you ONLY need a multi then ADAM is great. If you take into account that OT is a 45 day supply of a multi, 45 days of a properly dosed joint complex PLUS Bromelain, has immune support AND according to CL it properly "covers you" on Quercetin, R-ALA, and some other antioxidants, has a complete Vitamin E profile with tocotrienols, it is pretty much the best value out there IMO.