Did TCF-1 make me fat?
- 09-11-2010, 08:12 PM
Did TCF-1 make me fat?
Haha Ok maybe not fat But i have been running it on a 12/12 with CLand after using one bottle of TCF-1 I have to say my mid section is a bit more lets say flabby? lol. I am up to 204lbs but not in a good way. I feel it in my glutes and thighs as well. I am thinking of running out tomorrow to get an AI to maybe get things back in check. What do you think?
I am going offshore Mon for a week so i cannot order or anything for that matter so my fate is in the hands of GNC tomorrow.
I am starting my last 3 weeks of CL BG and my only other supps are CL GM, WF, OT, PW, OG,
- 09-11-2010, 08:20 PM
certainly with TCF-1 and an increase in test you should have leaned out. I would eliminate that as a result. Perhaps you are just retaining water for some reason or your diet is off?
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09-11-2010, 08:48 PM
Maybe it's water but it has been quite a few days, also libido is down and usually around this time while doing CL BG my libidio is cranking. Weird. I was thinking that my overall test is up so maybe my estrogen production was creeping up a little. I do need to check my diet but it is no different than always and this is a rather sudden change.
09-11-2010, 10:12 PM
How is your diet? Increased test can mean increased appetite. If you fill it with the wrong thing then it can result in fat gain.
09-11-2010, 10:40 PM
09-11-2010, 11:55 PM
Ive ran DAA products before and never got fatter on them and im sensitive to getting fat like hookers to cocaine!
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09-12-2010, 12:18 AM
I've ran tcf-1 twice now, never noticed any fat increase, always felt leaner and more full muscles, you may want to really evaluate your diet and exercise regimine and see if any changes can be made, especially from 12 on 12 off I'm not sure anything that would make you noticeably "fatter", in that time period. Also haven't seen anyone that has responded with a decreased libido, my gf hates me I wanna do the good ole ground and pound too much, but to each his own you may be an extreme negative responder.
09-12-2010, 05:16 AM
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09-12-2010, 09:12 AM
Thank you for all the feedback. Like I said I have been eating all the same stuff however i have noticed my appetite has increased greatly throughout the day and I am eating MORE of the same stuff. With a little cheat here and there and i can see how that would be a contributing factor. I will pay a little more close attenion to my diet during this "off 12" period and try to fit in more cardio.
09-12-2010, 09:16 AM
09-12-2010, 09:31 AM
I know there are some guys running small doses of DAA for really long periods of time but what is the longest you've heard of anyone taking TCF-1? I think I found one gent who reports 48 days with no negs?
09-12-2010, 10:20 AM
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09-12-2010, 05:59 PM
Scivation had a natural diuretic called showtime I believe, if you hold a lot of water you could try that or a low dose anti e like erase would work well with tcf 1
09-12-2010, 09:56 PM
have you noticed cravings for sweets at night, or carbs in the morning?
if that's the case, this could be a sign of high cortisol levels...there are some great products out there to address cortisol.
09-12-2010, 10:09 PM
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09-13-2010, 06:14 PM
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09-15-2010, 12:10 AM
Dont think TCF-1 is the cause, higher test levels would normal make fatloss moreso not fat gain (UNLESS ESTROGEN CONVERTION got really high) maybe you geneticly have more conversion to estradiol by an enzyme called aromatase in you geneticly?- thow i REALLY REALLY dont think TCF-1 is the cause.
Maybe try out stacking TCF-1 with sustainalphaLV and T-911 and see what happens.
probibly diet thow as i assume you where trying to put on mass and eating more no?
09-15-2010, 07:38 AM
Blue Gene has some natural anti-estrogenic compounds in the product, it usually keeps excess estrogen at bay for me.
A little bloat could be attributed to a myriad of things, especially when playing with your hormones.
The fact that, however, your libido is funky - points to hormonal imbalance. Could be something as simple as stress - or as one person said perhaps cortisol.
I'd just keep an eye on it, I'm sure things will balance themselves out. Size gained quickly is size lost quickly (good thing or bad thing? lol)
09-15-2010, 11:55 AM
Are you in a relationship? Maby prolactin is hurting your sex life, and your missing out on that prescious cardio.
11-23-2011, 02:32 PM
Another thing that should be mentioned, is that when taking a not so well studied compound that affects hormones, you never know if somethings gonna affect your thyroid.
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