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  1.  09-10-2010  04:44 AM
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    supp with serious studies


    after creatine and beta alanine what other supplements offers more serious study ?



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    daa ?

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    Originally Posted by omg View Post
    after creatine and beta alanine what other supplements offers more serious study ?
    there are quite a many supps with serious studies behind them.thus the reason they are being used.

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    Originally Posted by corsaking View Post
    daa ?
    2 maybe 3 weak studies there.

    I'd say forslean has a few good ones for fatloss. Outside of that, most studies are pretty terrible. If its not a double blind, and not at least 8-10 people in each group, and the people aren't 18-40 year old resistance trained males, and no true body comp by dexa scan measurements it doesn't mean much because you can't really extrapolate results.
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    Originally Posted by gamer2be08 View Post
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    aakg is useless is better citrulline M

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    Originally Posted by omg View Post
    aakg is useless is better citrulline M

    For citrulline, you are talking about it's proven endurance/aerobic benefits right? Cuz, the NO side of things is pretty much disproven, from what I gather. It is awesome though, not debating that.

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    Originally Posted by omg View Post
    after creatine and beta alanine what other supplements offers more serious study ?
    Carbs, BCAA(mixed), Protein. Sounds like a shake!

    I think the dust is still settling somewhat on beta alanine. I mean, definite benefits for sure, but also some of the initial weak studies getting put to the test. I remember seeing one that said it would help sprinters. Now another says it will not help sprinters but does help long distance runners. Always seems to take a few years before we get the goods. Kinda like dangerous(LOL) creatine.

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    Strength athletes train better with citrulline malate

    Take 8 g citrulline malate before pumping iron and you’ll manage more reps per set. The more sets you manage, the bigger the effect, sports scientists at the University of Cordoba, Spain, discovered when they did experiments with bodybuilders.

    Citrulline malate was a popular supplement among cyclists in the seventies and eighties. And going by the stories it worked too. Hardly surprising if you look at what physiology textbooks have to say.

    Citrulline converts slowly in the body into arginine, an amino acid that is released as proteins break down. One of the end products of this breakdown is ammonia. High amounts of ammonia in your blood make you tired and prevent glucose being turned into energy. If you take citrulline or arginine, your body removes the ammonia more quickly from your blood.

    Malic acid or apple acid is released during the citric acid cycle. It prevents muscle cells from making lactic acid and stimulates the production of pyruvate, which supplies energy.

    Both arginine and malate enable muscle cells to produce aerobic energy for longer, and delay the moment at which hardworking muscle cells resort to their ATP.

    In theory. There is little research that actually confirms this. That’s why the Spaniards conducted an experiment. They got bodybuilders to train their chest muscles by doing 16 sets in one go, on one occasion after taking a placebo [PLAC], and on another one hour after taking 8 g citrulline malate [CM].


    The test subjects started with 4 sets of bench presses at 80 percent of the weight at which they could just manage 1 rep [S1 – S4]. Then they did 4 sets of incline bench presses [S5 – S8], followed by 4 sets of flies [S9 – S12] and finally 4 sets of bench presses [S’1 – S’4]. All sets were done at failure: the bodybuilders did as many reps per set as they could. That’s overdoing it if you aren’t using any forbidden substances, but guarantees muscle exhaustion.

    As the training progressed, the effect of the supplement became clearer. The bodybuilders who had taken citrulline malate managed more reps. The figure below shows the number of reps the bodybuilders managed during set S3. And the figure below that shows the reps they made during set S’4, the very last set of the training session

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    Testofen?

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